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To: Critter
. Our government has authorized itself to use deadly force to enforce any and every regulation on the books. That IS fascism.

Hardly, you aren't going to get SHOT by a government agent for discriminating in your leasing behaviors... you aren't going to go to be shot for violating the Germaine act, or for violating OSHA regulations. You may face penalties, including jail time but that's not "Deadly force".

Enforcment of law is not defacto facism either. Italy During WWII was a facist country, and while I may not agree with many regulations, business or otherwise, this nation is nowhere near a FACIST state. People making such claims do so for rhetorical impact, and weaken their argument by relying on nothing more than incendiary rhetoric. Our business regulations in america are no more an act of Facism, than being a republican makes one a NAZI or RACIST. Such incendiary rhetoric is nonsense, and its use by both sides of the political spectrum undermines the arguments they put forth. These words have pretty much lost all meaning because they are thrown around with callous disregard for rhetorical purposes. Voting Republican is not RACIST and business legislation frameworks are not FACIST. Those are nothing more than ideological propoganda talking point nonsense.

104 posted on 03/11/2003 9:19:43 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
You may face penalties, including jail time but that's not "Deadly force".

And I suppose for that we are to be thankful?

106 posted on 03/11/2003 9:22:45 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: HamiltonJay
Hogwash. Take any violation of any regulation, however minor, and refuse to submit to the punishment. You will see just how fast it becomes deadly force. Spoken in my best Nazi imitation: "You must capitulate, or you will die."
107 posted on 03/11/2003 9:25:20 AM PST by Critter (Going back to sleep til the next revolution.)
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To: HamiltonJay
You may face penalties, including jail time but that's not "Deadly force".

LOL!!!

Try not paying the fine and see if they don't come for you. Try resisting going to jail and see how long you remain alive.

108 posted on 03/11/2003 9:25:38 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: HamiltonJay
You may face penalties, including jail time but that's not "Deadly force".

ROTFLMAO

114 posted on 03/11/2003 9:38:26 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: HamiltonJay
Smoking Police: Mr. Smith, we have a report that you have been smoking in your apartment.

Mr. Smith: Oh yeah, who told you that?

Smoking Police: Mr. Jones who lives upstairs. He said he can smell it. Is that cigarette smoke I smell, Mr. Smith?

Mr. Smith: No, that's my tobbaco scented incense I burn as part of a religious ceremony.

Smoking Police: Are you sure Mr. Smith? Do you mind if I come in and have a look around?

Mr. Smith: I certainly do mind.

Smoking Police: I can get a warrant Mr. Smith. Don't make this harder than it has to be.

Mr. Smith: Do what you must. You're not coming in.

Smoking Police: OK, Mr. Smith, have it your way. We'll be back.

Mr. Smith: I'm sure you will.

Smoking Police leave, vowing to be back. Mr. Smith lights a smoke and goes back to watching a John Wayne movie.

One week later

Mr. Smith has just extinguished his last smoke for the night, and gone to bed. He checks to make sure his pistol is loaded and in the night stand where he always keeps it when he sleeps, since this is a pretty rough area of LA in which he lives.

In the mean time, two Smoking Police unmarked squad cars roll up the the aprtment building's entrance very quietly. They must have the element of surprise or Mr. Smith may be able to flush the evidence which these dedicated Smoking Police officers know exists in that aprtment.

Smoking Police Seargent: OK, men, we've been through this hundreds of times, you know what to do. Johnson, you cover the fire escape with Adams. Wells and I are going in the front. We go in at 02:00. Good luck!

Wells and the sarge slowly make their way up the stairs and down the hall to Apt. 2G. When they arrive, they quickly check their watches... 01:59:30.

Sarge: OK Wells, ready? I'll kick the door in, you go in as soon as it opens, with me covering you.

Wells: Got it.

The sarge looks again at his watch, 02:00 on the nose. He plants his large foot against the door near the knob and the door quickly gives way. Wells rushes in, the sarge right behind him.

Wells: THIS IS THE POLICE! EVERYONE ON THE FLOOR HANDS IN THE OPEN!!!

The officers finding the living room empty proceed down the hall to the bedroom, where Mr. Smith, awakening to the racket at the door, has reached into his nightstand for his pistol.

Wells kicks open the bedroom door, but before he can make his announcement the 2nd time, Mr. Smith has fired two shots hitting Wells squarely in the chest knocking him back out of the bedroom. His vest has saved his life this time. However, Mr. Smith is not so lucky as the sarge, right behind Wells at the door, empties his 16 round mag of 9mm into Mr. Smith's bed, killing him almost instantly.

Another day in the trenches for the Smoking Police, making life safer, and smell better, for all of America.

131 posted on 03/11/2003 10:02:08 AM PST by Critter (Going back to sleep til the next revolution.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Hardly, you aren't going to get SHOT by a government agent for discriminating in your leasing behaviors... you aren't going to go to be shot for violating the Germaine act, or for violating OSHA regulations. You may face penalties, including jail time but that's not "Deadly force".

I hate to break it to you but resisting arrest will automatically bump up the policeman's response to 'force' fight back effectively and he will bump it to 'deadly force' in a heartbeat.

Refusal to submit to government arrest will eventually result in a death sentence if you continue to resist submission to said government.

382 posted on 03/14/2003 1:57:36 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Take charge of your destiny, or someone else will)
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