[chance33_98]

The bill's author says that the legislation is necessary because drifting smoke can be both a nuisance and a health hazard. "You can sue someone to force them to turn off their stereo at 2 a.m., but you can't sue someone to force them not to smoke, even though it comes into your apartment," said Assemblyman Joe Nation, D-San Rafael. "There's something wrong with that."

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[Fraulein]

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[wgeorge2001]

"Critics say it's not the government's job to tell people where they can smoke, and call the measure a violation of their rights."

It's also not their right to tell people if they have to buckle up or not; or own guns or not; or pray in public schools or not; or speak the word of God without fear or not; or talk on a cellphone in their car or not; or protest in front of an abortion clinic or not; or buy car insurance or not; or ask their representives in congress to appoint conservative judges who do not change the constitution or not. Yet the liberal left continues to violate and legislate our God given rights away every day; one right at a time and some people in the left wing have not noticed how they are deceived day by day.
To all those who love liberty; vote conservative republican before the boot heel of left wing liberalism destroys all our freedoms.

[NetValue]

It is hard to believe we once took pride in how free America was.

[Fraulein]

"You can sue someone to force them to turn off their stereo at 2 a.m., but you can't sue someone to force them not to smoke, even though it comes into your apartment," said Assemblyman Joe Nation, D-San Rafael. "There's something wrong with that."

Heaven forbid there's something that you can't be sued for.

[borisbob69]

Since CA seems to be the source of much of what the leftists advance and we abhor...perhaps we should pray for that predicted earthquake that will make nice beaches in Western AZ :)

[Wolfie]

Maybe cigarette smokers will have to learn the ol' pot smoker trick of stuffing a wet towel under the door.

[xzins]

Maybe we can criminalize everything that bothers anyone else. The only problem then will be who gets to be the jailers.

[FreeTally]

AB 210 would allow residents, landlords or homeowner's associations to sue tenants who allow second-hand smoke to drift beyond their apartments.

Sure, take them to court and prove damages, and you can collect. I have no problem with this. Of course, one would be hard pressed to prove any type of damage.........

[FreeTally]

"You can sue someone to force them to turn off their stereo at 2 a.m., ......

No you can't, you dolt. You can call the cops and the cops will tell them to turn it off or they will be arrested for violating noise ordinances.

[VRWC_minion]

Won't be long before inconsiderate addicts are only allowed to smoke in specially designated fields miles away from any humans. If only they were considerate they would have avoided all this.

[HamiltonJay]

While I don't agree with the law, as a landlord myself, honestly, I prefer not to rent to smokers just because of the inate damage they do to my property. I've painted and cleand and replaced enough smoke ruined walls and carpets in my day...

[Illbay]

Excellent. I hope it passes.

[Dan from Michigan]

Pricks. I live in an apartment. I smoke cigars occasionally. I'd smoke cigars whether this is law or not, since Govt has no business in my apartment. Period. Who says? I say and that's all that really matters. This law would not be worthy of being followed by me.

And thank God I don't live in California.

[finnman69]

Frnakly, it's the landlords problem if the party wall between apartments is not properly sealed. I used to live next to a smoker and the smoke would waft right through the wall. Annoying, but not nearly as annoying as the stereo speakers right next to my bedroom. I must have called the super 20 times to ask them (south Americans) to turn of their god damn gypsy king music and quiet their carousing at 2AM.

Fianlly I strted calling my neighbors at 5am to see how they liked being woken up.

[Publius6961]

Let me guess...
This wil be called..... Ta daaaaah!

The Neurotic Neighbor Protection Act?

No?
But no one, but no one is able to demonstrate scientifically, that the odor of smoking is harmful to anyone at any time and at any age.
Any potentially harmful products in environmental smoke is dissipated beyond any possible demonstration of harm to any neighbor.

Of course if morons and sickos (OK ok, mentally or psychiatrically challenged) are allowed to promote or write laws, the absurd end of the process is bound to be explosive.
So far as I know (Thank God), no society in recorded history has ever survived when run by the dimmest among them.

[On the Road to Serfdom]

First, for the record I would eliminate cigarette taxes and don’t oppose cigarettes, but the property rights issue not so one sided as some here assume.

If I own a lake but people are free to dump toxic waste into it do I really own it? Part of ownership is the right to keep others from polluting it. Private land is generally better taken care of and protected than government land.

There are competing property rights here. The right to smoke on your property vs. the right to prevent others from dumping their pollution your property.

There is a classic example of smoke from a smokestack hurting a nearby a dry cleaning business. Does the first business have a right to emit smoke from their property or does the dry cleaning business have a right to prevent others from putting smoke on its property? Neither side is more “pro-property rights” than the other. (See The Coase Theorem.)

[Southack]

California seems to be doing more than merely flirting with fascism. The state has the most draconian "3 strikes" law, passed an overt ban on gay marriages 3 years ago, banned smoking in bars/restraunts, sued energy companies for not providing enough cheap energy, is constantly forcing housing developers to build free subsidized housing in exchange for large building permits, darn near bans more guns than the rest of the U.S. combined, etc.

If the state starts purchasing a bunch of railway boxcars, then watch out!

[swarthyguy]

Next coal grills, and aromatic cooking.

I think America just wants smokers to turn over their money to the state authorities and go kill themselves.

Wait til we see HMOChips implanted that'll monitor your bodily acitivity, diet, and intake of controlled and non controlled substances.

The soul of the NaziFascistTotalitariansSocialEngineers thrives in America today. No jackboots for the nanny state.

[swarthyguy]

Control Freaks are our jihadis.