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IRAQ REMOVES ENGINES FROM DESTROYED AL SAMOUDS
middle east newsline ^ | 3/9/03

Posted on 03/08/2003 10:03:06 PM PST by knak

WASHINGTON [MENL] -- U.S. intelligence has concluded that Iraq deceived the United Nations in its current effort to destroy the Al Samoud missile.

U.S. officials said the regime of President Saddam Hussein has not destroyed any Al Samoud missile deployed in forward bases in southern Iraq. Instead, they said, Iraq has brought out missiles from military warehouses and replaced the engines with those from the Soviet-origin SA-2 surface-to-air missile, developed in the 1950s.

"From recent intelligence, we know that the Iraqi regime intends to declare and destroy only a portion of its banned Al Samoud inventory and that it has, in fact, ordered the continued production of the missiles that you see being destroyed," U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell told the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies on Wednesday. "Iraq has brought its machinery that produces such missiles out into the daylight for all to see. But we have intelligence that says, at the very same time, it has also begun to hide machinery it can use to convert other kinds of engines to power Al Samouds."

Iraq has declared that it has 100 Al Samoud missiles, half of them deployed by the military. So far, the UN Monitoring,Verification, and Inspection Commission reports that 34 such missiles have been destroyed.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alsamoudmissile; warlist
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To: Howlin
Now, I know this is a stupid question and you all can laugh if you want to, but isn't the engine what made the damn thing illegal in the first place?

It was the modifications made to the design of the original SA-2 engine that made the Al-Samouds illegal.

101 posted on 03/09/2003 7:19:21 AM PST by steveegg (12 years of inspections + 0 compliance = no peace ... 200,000 troops + 1 W = peace + liberation)
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To: wirestripper
I don't think the U.N. flunkies have believed a single thing that the U.S. has presented in the way of evidence.

IMHO, they believe it, but they value the goals of Iraq more than upholding their word.

102 posted on 03/09/2003 7:20:33 AM PST by steveegg (12 years of inspections + 0 compliance = no peace ... 200,000 troops + 1 W = peace + liberation)
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To: knak
That would be why both UN Resolution 687 (the original disarmament resolution) and UN Resolution 1441 called for the UN to demilitarize the missiles themselves and called for limiting Iraq's role to turning their banned weapons over to the UN.

When we move against Iraq, we should let some of NYC's finest move against the UN as well.

103 posted on 03/09/2003 7:23:35 AM PST by steveegg (12 years of inspections + 0 compliance = no peace ... 200,000 troops + 1 W = peace + liberation)
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To: George W. Bush
"Silly rabbit. Blix are for kids."

Really really stupid kids.

I definitely wouldn't feed any kid Blix cereal.

104 posted on 03/09/2003 7:24:45 AM PST by steveegg (12 years of inspections + 0 compliance = no peace ... 200,000 troops + 1 W = peace + liberation)
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To: Howlin; PhiKapMom
The Iraqi Scud Missile Launcher of the 1991 war wasn't very accurate, but I suspect if he has a few of these Al Samoud missiles they may be more of a threat to those who he aims them at...
105 posted on 03/09/2003 7:39:03 AM PST by deport
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To: clintonh8r
You mean they fooled Hans? Why, that's hard to believe!

You know what they say.

Ingorance is Blix...

106 posted on 03/09/2003 7:41:27 AM PST by null and void (tee hee)
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To: Howlin; PhiKapMom
Sadly when this thing starts we'll be beyond the 'who said what'; 'he's destroyed what' or 'he doesn't have' stages. We'll know for sure as Saddam will use some of the the stuff and thus expose all that have defended him for what they are.... Sadly ppl will be injured or killed by his use of the things he claims he doesn't have...
107 posted on 03/09/2003 7:46:04 AM PST by deport
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To: Mo1
Can I smack Bliz upside his head ... PLEASE!

All this time, I thought you were more of a knee person...

108 posted on 03/09/2003 7:47:09 AM PST by null and void (tee hee)
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To: knak
Hans the wonder horse.
109 posted on 03/09/2003 7:48:34 AM PST by CathyRyan
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To: Mo1
I'd like to do more then Nix him .. right now I'd like to kick him in the groin

I thought you were more of a knee person...

110 posted on 03/09/2003 7:52:55 AM PST by null and void (tee hee)
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To: laz17
As witty as the line "Ignorance is Blix" is, it's now painfully obvious that it's not apropos.

OK, maybe "Willful Ingnorance is Blix"

111 posted on 03/09/2003 7:59:02 AM PST by null and void (Why aren't more people happy?...)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I'll bet Blix is a nice man.

Absolutely. Look up where the word "nice" came from...

112 posted on 03/09/2003 8:01:43 AM PST by null and void
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To: Robert_Paulson2
HE probably told them how to make it LOOK like they were destroying their missiles and said: "look boys, if you do it like this, I can cover for you for another week or two... so you can get those anthrax warheads installed and deployed against the americans and the brits...

You better believe that's what he told them!!

113 posted on 03/09/2003 8:43:34 AM PST by timestax
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To: Howlin
Thanks, Howlin.

Blix has GOT to be on somebody's secret payroll to be this incompetent. Either that or blackmail. Perhaps both.
114 posted on 03/09/2003 8:50:14 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Leave the monkeys alone.)
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To: deport
I agree with you that he probably has missiles much more accurate today!

The worst thing is that Blix let it sound like Saddam was cooperating when he knew that was the furthest thing from the truth.

IMHO, Blix should not only resign from this position but should be forbidden from ever getting involved in any type of disarmament again. It is quite obvious he cannot be trusted!
115 posted on 03/09/2003 9:34:43 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: Petronski
love the dog!
116 posted on 03/09/2003 9:39:02 AM PST by knak (kelly in alaska)
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To: knak
U.S. intelligence has concluded that Iraq deceived the United Nations in its current effort to destroy the Al Samoud missile.

“I’m shocked, SHOCKED that gambling is going on in this establishment!”

117 posted on 03/09/2003 10:34:52 AM PST by Terriergal ("what does the LORD require..? To ACT justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. ")
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To: null and void; anniegetyourgun
I'll bet Blix is a nice man.

Absolutely. Look up where the word "nice" came from...

[Middle English, foolish, from Old French, from Latin nescius, ignorant, from nescre, to be ignorant. See nescience.]

118 posted on 03/09/2003 10:36:26 AM PST by Terriergal ("what does the LORD require..? To ACT justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. ")
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To: knak
Hans Blix would screw up a one man rock fight!
119 posted on 03/09/2003 2:59:41 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt
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To: Sword_Svalbardt; no one in particular
Have you noticed anything fishy about the inspection teams who have arrived in Iraq?

They're all men!

How in the name of the United Nations does anyone expect men to find Saddam's stash? We all know that men have a blind spot when it comes to finding things.

For crying' out loud! They can't find the dirty clothes hamper.

They can't find the jar of jelly until it falls out of the cupboard and splatters on the floor.... and these are the people we have sent into Iraq to search for hidden weapons of mass destruction? They probably couldn't find them if they were lying in the middle of a dusty street with a picture of Saddam aiming a rifle in the air taped on the side.

I keep wondering why groups of women weren't sent in---preferably mothers.

After all, mothers know that their boys can't find their socks or underwear when they're neatly folded in their dresser drawers, so how could they be expected to find hidden biological weapons? On the other hand, mothers can sniff out secrets quicker than a drug dog can find a gram of dope.

What we need over there are women like my mother.

My mother could find the old olive bottles filled with dimes that dad stashed in the attic beneath the rafters.

She could sniff out a diary two rooms and one floor away.

She always knew when the lid of the cookie jar had been disturbed, and I swear she must have dusted for prints on the roll of salami that was always in the refrigerator.

She knew if a slice had been removed and by whom.

I developed her ability to stalk out criminal activity when my kids were at home. They couldn't get away with much that I didn't know about.

They still think they got away with a lot, but actually I always knew what they were doing, and if I decided that what they were doing was not too important or dangerous, I allowed them to think they were getting away with it. It was important for them to think they have an uncanny ability to pull the wool over mom's eyes occasionally.

But male inspectors?

Going after Saddam?

Now I know that our country has gone mad. Those inspectors will rely on electronic equipment to scout out hidden threats. They will try to use science to find chemicals.

These men, dressed in their pretentious jumpsuits, carrying their bulging briefcases, will barge into palaces and hovels, look around and then officiously announce, "all clear".

But if mothers were sent in they wouldn't need body suits, briefcases or science.

Mothers would go in, charge up to Saddam and, with their hands on their hips, demand, "do you have any weapons of mass destruction?" And they could tell in an instant whether he was lying or telling the truth.

And mothers would be quite capable of finding his cache no matter how cleverly he thought it was hidden.

God help him once it was found; he would be chastised until he begged for mercy.

He wouldn't be given a "time-out"; he would get an old fashioned butt-blistering by women who are adept at butt-blistering.

And by the time these women finished with Saddam, he would be sitting in the middle of a dusty road with a limp rifle and a stunned look on his evil face.

120 posted on 03/09/2003 4:29:45 PM PST by null and void
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