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To: Im4Starr
I don't think anybody really wants to vilifies smokers.
It has just gotten to the point where populations are very tight and indoors you can't get away from all the smoke.

It started here in CA I think and to be honest, it seems to have been mostly a good result.

There are areas of bunk I don't like around the current law where this could be done better. As an example, a trucker in their own vehicle is in the "work-place" and thereby subject to a multi-hundred dollar fine for smoking in the work-place. That is outrageous and is extreme.
The spirit if the law was that if there are groups of people together indoors in public or work, there is to be no smoking there. They must either go outdoors or the parking garage and such.
California is strapped for cash and they are going after truckers that don't make big bucks. It is an excuse for Gray Davis to blackmail some truckers. I don't like that, they went too far.
22 posted on 03/08/2003 11:44:00 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I don't think anybody really wants to vilifies smokers.

I'm sure you don't, but you're wrong. Without the deliberate vilification of smokers, none of these outrageous taxes or oppressive bans would have had a chance. That vilification began when rabid anti-smoker C. Everett Koop changed the definition of addictiion to include smoking so we could then be considered "junkies" and unworthy of the upstanding citizen's concern.

And you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

88 posted on 03/08/2003 2:11:32 PM PST by Max McGarrity (Anti-smokers--still the bullies in the playground they always were.)
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To: A CA Guy
It started here in CA I think and to be honest, it seems to have been mostly a good result. There are areas of bunk I don't like around the current law where this could be done better. As an example, a trucker in their own vehicle is in the "work-place" and thereby subject to a multi-hundred dollar fine for smoking in the work-place. That is outrageous and is extreme. The spirit if the law was that if there are groups of people together indoors in public or work, there is to be no smoking there. They must either go outdoors or the parking garage and such. California is strapped for cash and they are going after truckers that don't make big bucks. It is an excuse for Gray Davis to blackmail some truckers. I don't like that, they went too far.

LOL! yea, you thought it was a good result! ROFLMAO! Virtually everything you sheep partake in is now under attack by potential taxation! LOL!

Do I care? Hell no you idiot, you got what you deserve!

Want some support from me? Well sheepster, you ain't gonna get it.........

Like they say, they came for the Jews and I wasn't a Jew so I didn't care......... Thanks for your previous support of us smokers. LOL!!!

125 posted on 03/08/2003 5:39:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Nothing worse than an angry herd of hungry finches....)
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