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To: zefrog
Nope. Even if your troops are sincerly greeted by Iraqis, even if you open numbers of torture cells, even if you find labs filled with WMDs, the majority of western viewers will dismiss it as ludicrous and childish anglo-saxon propaganda to provide a justification a posteriori.

Right, like how Europe just dismissed the liberation of the concentration camps in World War II. Are you breathing pure air where you are, or is the Paris smog settling in your cerebral cortex?

Truth has a way of resonating on its own. How typically French of you to not care about the truth, and think that the spin placed on it is more important, and that it will in fact obscure the truth. It won't. But thanks anyway, I will recall this remark once Iraq is liberated and the pictures are broadcast across the world.

At the beginning, no, our troops stopped the rebels. And the primary reason was _really_ to evacuate westerners. Things have changed a little since then, but that's the nice things with crises. For those who like surprises.

If anything, you should NEVER have strong-armed Gbagbo. His was a legitimately elected government - your machinations diluted that authority.

Yeah, like that matters.

You are constantly telling us about how we should be sensitive to what the Arabs want, mate. Pay attention to the Ivorians before you start lecturing us.

Ivan

269 posted on 03/08/2003 5:01:15 AM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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To: MadIvan
Right, like how Europe just dismissed the liberation of the concentration camps in World War II.

First, things have changed a lot since 1945. Second, even by this time, people paid much more attention to the liberation of cities than to concentration cmaps, which only became a hot topic years later.

Are you breathing pure air where you are, or is the Paris smog settling in your cerebral cortex?

I'll only be back tuesday in Paris. I have no problems with fresh air, I'm in Corsica right now: your compatriots call it "The island of perfumes."

Truth has a way of resonating on its own.

Look, Ivan, dozens of millions of westerners feel more hatred now for Bush than for Bin Laden. Is that "truth resonating"? Polls indicate that they consider the US to be a greater danger then Iraq or NKorea. Can't you realize how insane the public opinion has become? The whole continental Europe is now thinking upside down out of the simple fact that it is tired with american domination. No matter how great America is or will be, its public relations department is doomed, period. Forget about your truth resonating, it does not happen any longer in Europe as long as America is part of the picture. And it's all America's fault: it's too succesful.

If anything, you should NEVER have strong-armed Gbagbo. His was a legitimately elected government - your machinations diluted that authority.

Well, you know, Gbagbo is basically as legitimate as Arafat. He ran him campaign on a platform or pure "Ivoirite" and racial hatred. He organized commandos who have slaughtered en masse. He's no better than the guys on the other side.

You are constantly telling us about how we should be sensitive to what the Arabs want, mate. Pay attention to the Ivorians before you start lecturing us.

Our motivation for this differenciation is simple: the arabs can be very dangerous, not the ivorians.

281 posted on 03/08/2003 5:38:36 AM PST by zefrog
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