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To: MadIvan
Right, like how Europe just dismissed the liberation of the concentration camps in World War II.

First, things have changed a lot since 1945. Second, even by this time, people paid much more attention to the liberation of cities than to concentration cmaps, which only became a hot topic years later.

Are you breathing pure air where you are, or is the Paris smog settling in your cerebral cortex?

I'll only be back tuesday in Paris. I have no problems with fresh air, I'm in Corsica right now: your compatriots call it "The island of perfumes."

Truth has a way of resonating on its own.

Look, Ivan, dozens of millions of westerners feel more hatred now for Bush than for Bin Laden. Is that "truth resonating"? Polls indicate that they consider the US to be a greater danger then Iraq or NKorea. Can't you realize how insane the public opinion has become? The whole continental Europe is now thinking upside down out of the simple fact that it is tired with american domination. No matter how great America is or will be, its public relations department is doomed, period. Forget about your truth resonating, it does not happen any longer in Europe as long as America is part of the picture. And it's all America's fault: it's too succesful.

If anything, you should NEVER have strong-armed Gbagbo. His was a legitimately elected government - your machinations diluted that authority.

Well, you know, Gbagbo is basically as legitimate as Arafat. He ran him campaign on a platform or pure "Ivoirite" and racial hatred. He organized commandos who have slaughtered en masse. He's no better than the guys on the other side.

You are constantly telling us about how we should be sensitive to what the Arabs want, mate. Pay attention to the Ivorians before you start lecturing us.

Our motivation for this differenciation is simple: the arabs can be very dangerous, not the ivorians.

281 posted on 03/08/2003 5:38:36 AM PST by zefrog
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To: zefrog
First, things have changed a lot since 1945. Second, even by this time, people paid much more attention to the liberation of cities than to concentration cmaps, which only became a hot topic years later.

Oh so the liberation of Baghdad will just be completely ignored. Give it a rest.

Look, Ivan, dozens of millions of westerners feel more hatred now for Bush than for Bin Laden. Is that "truth resonating"?

It's the left wing media gaining the upper hand temporarily. The difference between you and me is that you want to swim along with the tide, whether it is right or wrong. The Americans and I are saying, Damn the tide, we'll do the right thing - the truth will out in the end.

And indeed it always does.

Well, you know, Gbagbo is basically as legitimate as Arafat. He ran him campaign on a platform or pure "Ivoirite" and racial hatred. He organized commandos who have slaughtered en masse. He's no better than the guys on the other side.

Evidence for this? I no longer accept anything you say on face value.

Our motivation for this differenciation is simple: the arabs can be very dangerous, not the ivorians.

So you're cowards then. Basically you're saying it's OK to pick on (relatively) unarmed Africans, as they are not dangerous, but a genuine threat must be coddled.

No wonder the Ivorians want to have done with you.

Ivan

284 posted on 03/08/2003 5:42:54 AM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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To: zefrog
The whole continental Europe is now thinking upside down out of the simple fact that it is tired with american domination.

Okey dokey.

But if you get into trouble, you know you're on your own. We now feel free to ignore you.

285 posted on 03/08/2003 5:43:22 AM PST by Catspaw
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