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You can try to blame all evils on the commies but that just won't fly with anyone who knows something of those evils

Your statement makes me ask what you know of the evils of communism and how they operated over the years. If you know of the Soviet plans for world revolution once they realized armed revolution was not going to happen on a global scale and how they went about undermining the west you would not even begin to question the soviet efforts in the culture was,which art is a part of. Are you familiar with Gramsci? with the Frankfurt school? you can go to the archives and look up speeches in the House of Representatives from 1949 by Rep. George Donero of Michigan who documented much about communism in the heart of modern art. Do you think the counter culture of the sixties had no connection to the political manueverings of the left? have you ever read David Horowitz or heard him speak? The commies politicized every aspect of life from sex to art to school admissions and curriculum in their efforts to undermine western tradition and values. It is very well documented and quite honestly I have never heard anyone, not even a leftist argue the point before let alone a conservative.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Actually I know a great deal of the evils of communism and how it operated over the years. Gramsci was an Italian not a Soviet. His political theories have had a major impact among the "intellectuals" but art is a different issue. I have read Marcuse have you?

Most of the sixties culture was not based on Marxism but the same kind of idealism and hedonism which had surfaced occasionally in this country since the 1820s. Long before Marx or the Communist manifesto. I read Horowitz when he was a commie and since. And Marx, Lenin, Mao, Hegel, Debray, Stalin, and Trotsky as well.

I do not claim Marxists have not tried to undermine Western life quite the contrary. However, Modern Art has little to do with that attempt and it certainly does not fit the Marxist theory of art. Just to claim something is commie influenced merely because you don't like it is hardly convincing. I have seen nothing by George DonDero about modern art perhaps you could point me to something.