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Group sues on behalf of child in Paper-Gun Incident
Rutherford Institute, Newark Star Ledger ^ | 03.05.03

Posted on 03/06/2003 10:35:56 PM PST by Coleus

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I used to shoot and kill my brother and friends almost every day while playing army after school. Those were the good old days, NO MORE.

We had all kinds of toy guns: cap guns, machine guns, water guns, toy pistols, etc. It was great, had a great time fooling around and playing army with our friends.

Why did the Irvington, NJ, police have to handcuff and arrest these boys for playing with "paper"!!!

Irvington, NJ, is a toilet, it borders Newark, NJ, to the north where the police have plenty to do to fight crime: murders, rapes, car thefts, stabbings, gang activity, etc., rather than arresting 8-yr.-old boys playing with paper on their school playground.

Just pick the Star ledger, search "last 14 days" and plug in Irvington http://www.nj.com/search/

1 posted on 03/06/2003 10:35:56 PM PST by Coleus
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ping
2 posted on 03/06/2003 10:39:42 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: Coleus
bttt
3 posted on 03/06/2003 10:42:22 PM PST by stands2reason
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Zero tolerance for educrats
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/695054/posts

Zero tolerance takes toll on pupils
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682754/posts

Reinstated Student Still Not In School - (zero tolerance idiocy strikes again)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/745870/posts

Tutorial in tolerance (high school kid in Marin County)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/687118/posts
4 posted on 03/06/2003 10:52:48 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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the school’s resource officer for interrogation

sounds like something out of Iraq or the Soviet Union.
5 posted on 03/06/2003 10:55:17 PM PST by Husker24
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The boys were taken to the principal's office, then arrested by police for making terroristic threats. They said they were merely playing a game of cops and robbers.

It is not just the idiot school bureaucrats. What the heck were the cops thinking? Don't they have a clue? Arresting 2nd graders?

6 posted on 03/06/2003 10:56:39 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: Coleus
This hysterical culture is going to produce a generation of repressed castrated males who will be ready for psychiatric institutions by age 20.
7 posted on 03/06/2003 11:31:46 PM PST by RLK
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Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence
8 posted on 03/07/2003 3:32:26 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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Why did the Irvington, NJ, police have to handcuff and arrest these boys for playing with paper...probably because it was folllowed by I'm going to kill you.
9 posted on 03/07/2003 3:35:13 AM PST by RWG
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Why did the Irvington, NJ, police have to handcuff and arrest these boys for playing with paper...probably because it was folllowed by I'm going to kill you.

Kill you how? With a paper cut?

This hardly sounds like a credible threat from a second grader.

Nothing the educrats do nowadays surprises me, but I expect a little more judgment from the police.

10 posted on 03/07/2003 3:40:56 AM PST by white trash redneck
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11 posted on 03/07/2003 3:50:15 AM PST by csvset (Stand back, or I'll disintergrate you!)
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Thanks for the ping Coleus...bttt
12 posted on 03/07/2003 4:47:37 AM PST by firewalk
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cop: you have the right to remain silent.
2nd grader: why?
cop: cause anything you say can be used against you.
2nd grader: why?
cop: cause you're under arrest.
2nd grader why?
cop: for violating the zero tolerance ordinance.
2nd grader: what does ordinance mean?
cop: son, don't make me use this nightstick.
13 posted on 03/07/2003 5:16:03 AM PST by teeman8r
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Dude, I certainly hope you are being facetious....

ANY COP that has to handcuff an 8 year old, should not be carrying a gun.

14 posted on 03/07/2003 5:18:32 AM PST by hobbes1 (White Devils For Sharpton)
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The boys were taken to the principal's office, then arrested by police for making terroristic threats. They said they were merely playing a game of cops and robbers.

With this stain on their records, they might not be able to get a real gun in the future. That's the plan...make "criminals" out of everyone.

"There's no way to rule innocent men..."

15 posted on 03/07/2003 5:41:21 AM PST by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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Some parents are starting to home school because of stupid zero-tolerance policies. They realize that they have normal, healthy kids and they don't want their lives screwed up by some idiotic school administrator. Too many stupid people have too much power to destroy too many lives.

One mother (who was a teacher) was interviewed a couple of years ago on why she homeschooled and she said something to the effect that she had a normally rebellious kid and no way was she putting him into a Florida public school.

She was smart. She probably saved her kid and herself a lot of grief.

16 posted on 03/07/2003 5:44:45 AM PST by ladylib
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To: Coleus
School employees (Super., Prin., etc.) should be held personally liable for these incidents of insanity -- to the point where they are removed and their licenses (etc.) revoked. Members of the board (after trial/conviction) should be similarly barred from continuing in that capacity.

Board members today are not sufficiently accountable (at most they don't get re-elected, but that is no big deal, since they're not getting paid anyway). We should make board seats a paid position (increasing the number who will seek them in the first place) and not rely on those 'volunteers' we get these days to sit on the boards.
18 posted on 03/07/2003 8:42:57 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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It is not just the idiot school bureaucrats. What the heck were the cops thinking? Don't they have a clue? Arresting 2nd graders?

I thought the same thing. It said they were arrested for making "terroristic threats". However, an 8-year old child with a piece of paper is incappable of making a "terroristic threat". It would be no different than the kids, or any child for that matter, saying to the teacher, "I'll give you ten million dollars if you give me an 'A'". You can't arrest a kid for bribary, because they have no means of paying a teacher ten million dollars.

Everyone involved should lose their jobs and be tarred and feathered.

19 posted on 03/07/2003 9:19:28 AM PST by FreeTally
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Give me an 'fing break.
20 posted on 03/07/2003 9:21:29 AM PST by FreeTally
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