Posted on 03/06/2003 12:40:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Patrice Brodeur, a scholar of Islam from Connecticut College, says "corporate repentance" is not part of Islamic theology. "Theologically, from a Muslim perspective, people are only responsible individually for their actions," he said. "They do disagree with the killing of innocent victims in the name of jihad, but they can't take it upon themselves to apologize for other members of the community who did something wrong."***
Pope Devotes Weekly Audience to 9/11 Anniversary ***VATICAN, Sep 11, 02 (CWNews.com) -- Pope John Paul II broke from his usual pattern at his weekly public audience on Wednesday, September 11, setting aside his series of catechetical talks to speak instead about last year's terrorist attacks on the US.
Speaking to about 8,000 people (including US ambassador James Nicholson) in the Paul VI auditorium, the Holy Father said that the "barbarous and cruel" attacks deserved universal condemnation. He went on to say that the international community should be united in its response to terrorism-- a response that is both "necessary" and "urgent."
Terrorism, the Pope said, "is an always will be a manifestation of human cruelty, which for that very reason can never resolve conflicts among men." The deliberate killing of innocent people, he continued, is inherently evil: "no instance of injustice, no feeling of frustration, no philosophy or religion can justify such an aberration." Respect for human life, he said is a natural and essential element of human life: "God commands it, international law sanctions it, the human conscience proclaims it, and peaceful coexistence requires it."***
No, a Church hierachy that allows and encourages the rape of children by homosexual priests is unjust and illegal.
As long as they are playing the role of useful idiots the Islamaddogs will not touch them.
If the Pope has some free time - Leonardo Miguel Bruzón Avila - Rights group pushes for release of dying dissident
I'd like that answer too. The Church needs to condemn evil not condone a group that ignores it.
I have been criticized as a Catholic basher for bringing this up, but...
Consider this, from Hobbes' Leviathan, in 1668:
Part IV. Of the Kingdom of DarknessChap. xlvii. Of the Benefit that proceedeth from such Darkness
[21] ...For from the time that the Bishop of Rome had gotten to be acknowledged for bishop universal, by pretence of succsession to St. Peter, their whole hierarchy (or kingdom of darkness) may be compared not unfitly to the kingdom of fairies (that is, to the old wives' fables in England, concerning ghosts and spirits and the feats they play in the night). And if a man consider the original of this ecclesiastical dominion, he will easily perceive that the Papacy is no other than the ghost of the deceased Roman empire sitting crowned upon the grave thereof. For so did the Papacy start out of the ruins of that heathen power.
[22] The language also which they use (both in the churches and in their public acts) being Latin, which is not commonly used by any nation now in the world, what is it but the ghost of the old Roman language?
[23] The fairies, in what nation soever they converse, have but one universal king, which some poets of ours call King Oberon; but the Scripture calls Beelzebub, prince of demons. The ecclesiastics likewise, in whose dominions soever they be found, acknowledge but one universal king, the Pope.
[24] The ecclesiastics are spiritual men and ghostly fathers. The fairies and ghosts inhabit darkness, solitudes, and graves. The ecclesiastics walk in obscurity of doctrine...
Has the Papacy joined the 'axis of evil' ???
I have a number of Catholic friends who seem to think so.
Most of the really off the wall "advice" on war came from Pio Laghi, who is a retired liberal nuisance. Many of the worst US Catholic bishops were appointed by him during his long tenure as nuncio, and he did nothing to help get complaints about the gay seminaries to Rome. In fact, it was only after he left that everything came to the surface here.
I also read that the Pope - not Pio L. - said the other day that Bush is a man of great integrity and morality. But did this get publicized? No, of course not.
Pio Laghi, however, is just the type of guy the press loves, so any nonsense that comes out of his lips is reported with absolute joy.
This is insulting. Everyone in the press believes the rightness of an action, any action, is judged by the number of votes it gains or loses.
Then again, Bush shouldn't have followed Powell into the UN pit.
The war could have been justified simply by saying that Sadam failed to abide by the terms of peace to which he agreed, saying in effect that the first war has not yet ended. Taking this dispute to an international body "with controlling legal authority" was a mistake.
And then turn around and claim to be Christians themselves.
You have a source for that?
The Pope knows that the ends do not justify the means. I believe that he sincerely thinks that this action will represent a war of aggression, not to the degree of Hitler's attack of Poland in 1939, but a war of aggression nonetheless. Just War theory permits only defensive war.
Nevertheless, I don't believe that this action will represent a war of aggression. This war is going to be waged to enforce the terms of peace to which Sadam agreed after the first war. Technically, it's the same war.
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