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I didn't see this posted. Another Supreme ruling today.
1 posted on 03/05/2003 8:12:20 AM PST by B-bone
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To: B-bone
Interesting: Would not overturn the right of a state to make and enforce it's own laws, I would guess.
2 posted on 03/05/2003 8:16:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau (Hillary: Constitutional Scholar! NOT)
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Dear Mr. Ewing,

Crime will no longer pay.

Sincerely,
The USSC
4 posted on 03/05/2003 8:25:05 AM PST by Beck_isright (going to war without the French is like duck hunting without an accordian)
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25 years for simply stealing golf clubs?

Not quite.

What were his first two crimes? Anybody know?
6 posted on 03/05/2003 8:28:07 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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3 clubs = 3 strikes? Or were there two other crimes that we aren't getting?
9 posted on 03/05/2003 8:34:16 AM PST by Teacher317
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Ninth Circuit loses again, I take it.
10 posted on 03/05/2003 8:35:33 AM PST by aristeides
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To: B-bone
stealing three golf clubs worth about $1,200.

Those are some expensive clubs.

However, I still think a Judge should have some leeway on sentencing. But on the other hand, the reason this law was enacted was the too many judges were too lenient.

This case is another example of anecdotal evidence to argue against both Three Strikes and Zero Tolerance. Both are well intentioned, but both have many incidents of excessiveness.

11 posted on 03/05/2003 8:36:21 AM PST by Michael.SF.
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I'm sorry this guy will spend the next quarter-century in prison. I'm sorry he was too stupid to stop stealing, too.
16 posted on 03/05/2003 8:41:21 AM PST by ArcLight
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Whoa! Another law-and-order ruling! What are they smoking up there? /sarcasm off
25 posted on 03/05/2003 8:51:22 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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I live in California. I support the three strike law.

I read that the Judges should have some leeway in setting the sentence. That is what got us here in the first place. Judges were letting criminals go time after time after time. I too would prefer that Judges had some leeway, but I would also prefer having Judges that would take their jobs serious, and not act as another defense attorney.

Very few law abiding citizens well find themselves facing the three strike law. First you have to commit a felony, and then be caught and then be tried and then be found guilty. Now, can anyone tell me with a straight face that someone found guilty of a felony was for the very first and only crime they committed? No, most likely they have committed many felonies but have only been caught for the one.

After serving your time, you have to return to your life of crime, and start the process over, committing felonies, getting caught, getting tried, and being found guilty.

Now, after getting out the third time, you have a choice, do not commit anymore crimes (or move out of California) or risk the third strike.

If you go out to commit more crimes you are pretty much telling the world you can not help yourself and that you will continue on your merry criminal way, unless stopped. Well the three strike law is going to stop you, at least for awhile.

This is a quality of life issue as much as anything. The person who had their golf clubs stolen (in this case) should not have suffered this loss, regardless of the cost of the clubs.

Every crime committed affects innocent civilians, and sometimes in large ways sometimes in small ways. Stealing is wrong. Society should have the right to discourage people from committing crimes. And if someone has shown through their actions that they can not help themselves, then they should be locked up for a very long time.

I live in California, and I have no problem paying for the prisons.

If you think the three strike laws are too harse, invite the criminals into your state and treat them with kindness, as long as they are off the streets, I am happy.

26 posted on 03/05/2003 8:52:51 AM PST by riversarewet
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Ready for some facts?

Ewing has been on probation, parole, or incarcerated almost continuously since at least 1984. A careful reading of the record reveals that Ewing was convicted of at least 13 crimes before committing his present final strike offense, including at least five felonies, with the remainder being misdemeanors.

In November of 1984, Ewing committed grand theft in Ohio and sustained a conviction.

In November of 1988, Ewing was convicted of grand theft for stealing a car and was sentenced to three years probation with one year in Los Angeles County jail.

In September of 1990, Ewing was convicted for petty theft with a prior, and was sentenced to three years probation.

In August of 1992, Ewing was convicted of misdemeanor battery, and given two years probation and ordered to spend 30 days in county jail.

Also in August of 1992, Ewing was convicted separately convicted of theft—again. He was given a year probation and 10 days in jail.

In January of 1993, Ewing was arrested for burglary and obstruction of justice. He was convicted for violating the latter, given one year probation and 60 days in jail.

In February of 1993, Ewing was convicted for possession of drug paraphernalia, granted three years probation and ordered to serve six months in county jail.

In September 1993, Ewing was convicted for appropriating lost property after having been charged with petty theft with a prior. He received two years probation and 10 days in jail.

Also in September of 1993, in a separate case, Ewing was convicted of carrying a concealed firearm. This conviction looks suspiciously like armed burglary because it was charged with criminal trespass. At any rate, it was a misdemeanor and he got one year probation and one month in county jail.

In late 1993, Ewing ... (became) a serious and violent felon. On October 22, 1993, he burglarized the apartment of LaFaye Maddox, at night and while she was home in bed. She awoke to find Ewing still there. Ewing took some items of minor value and left his fingerprints on a wine glass. Ewing was convicted of this burglary as Count 4 in the 1993 information.

On the afternoon of November 27, 1993, Lloyd Martinez returned home to his apartment to find that it had been burglarized. Keys to Martinez’ garage and to the apartment security complex had been stolen. The keys were recovered from Ewing when police arrested him. Ewing was convicted of this burglary as Count 3 in the 1993 information.

Early the following morning, at approximately 3:00 a.m., apartment resident Steve Jordan was doing laundry in the laundry room when entered and accosted Jordan. Ewing told him he had a gun and demanded money. The man saw only a flashlight in Ewing’s waist band and tried to shove him away. Ewing stood his ground and instead of going away, produced a knife with a six-inch blade, gained quick compliance by threatening his victim’s life, robbed him of money and credit cards, forced the victim to provide access to his apartment, and fled. Ewing was convicted on this residential robbery and burglary as Counts 1 and 2 of the 1993 information.

For these four violent and serious crimes, Ewing was sentenced to nine years, eight months in state prison.

Ewing was on parole nine months when he committed his present grand theft of expensive golf clubs. The present crime is Ewing’s sixth felony.
--BRIEF ON THE MERITS OF AMICUS CURIAE
--CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION

30 posted on 03/05/2003 8:57:20 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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Mr. Ewing can put his criminal skills into practice for the rest of his life as a turd burgular in prison.
38 posted on 03/05/2003 9:16:54 AM PST by finnman69 (!)
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I guess he was hoping that the Supreme Court would give him a Mulligan.
50 posted on 03/05/2003 10:04:42 AM PST by pghkevin (Have you hugged your kids today? Have you thanked someone in the Military today?)
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although I like the general concept of 3 strikes, I think the ability to treat misdemeanors as felonies ex-post facto seems insane to me.

It is one thing to lock away some gang banger or con-artist, but taking otherwise minor offences such as Marijuana Possession or vandalism and elevating those to felonies so they can get three strikes just seems stupid.

It's not worth $80,000 a year to lock up some pothead or homeless bum who stole a slice of pizza

55 posted on 03/05/2003 10:26:05 AM PST by ContentiousObjector
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Bad Law; Not a conservative law.
78 posted on 03/05/2003 12:04:06 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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Sucks to be him!
84 posted on 03/05/2003 3:38:11 PM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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I am not comfortable with that law. It is ripe for abuse. Try each case independently, consider past convictions and keep them in for the duration of their sentence. But to say, this is the third one, it’s 25 years for you.

That’s simply bad law. If we applied the laws on the books, they wouldn’t need this bad one.
86 posted on 03/05/2003 5:03:14 PM PST by Barnacle (A human shield against liberal tripe.)
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Good for California.....Throw away the freaking key.....
88 posted on 03/05/2003 6:24:58 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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The take-home message is, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, and everybody better learn it. But of course the guvummint skoolz would rather teach you how to put on a condom, then teach morality and respect for the property of others!
92 posted on 03/05/2003 8:18:57 PM PST by Frank_2001
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