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It is interesting to me, though, for a so-called conservative forum, how many of ya'll just totally ignore the Constitution.

Please explain how I am ignoring the Constitution. Congress has the power to declare war. They did so in fall 01. Which part confuses you?

I guess you think they are required to use the word "declare" when they declare war? Where is that, in the Constitution?

Congress seems to operate on a similar idea. Take, for example, World War II, our last real "war."

MONDAY, DECEMBER 8, 1941
DECLARATION OF STATE OF WAR WITH JAPAN
The Senate having returned to its chamber (at 12 o'clock and 47 minutes p. m.), it reassembled and the Vice President resumed the chair.

Mr. BARKLEY. I suggest the absence of a quorum.

The VICE PRESIDENT. The clerk will call the roll. The legislative clerk called the roll.

* * * * * *

The VICE PRESIDENT. Eighty-two Senators have answered to their names. A quorum is present.

Mr. CONNALLY. Mr. President, I introduce a joint resolution, and ask for its immediate consideration without reference to a committee.

The VICE PRESIDENT. The joint resolution will be read.

The joint resolution (S. J. Res. 116) declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States, and making provision to prosecute the same, was read the first time by its title, and the second time at length, as follows:

"Whereas the Imperial Government of Japan has committed unprovoked acts of war against the Government and the people of the United states of America:

"Therefore be it

"Resolved, etc., That the state of war between the United states and the Imperial Government of Japan which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United states."

I compare to the post 9-11 Congressional resolution:

"The President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons."

Seem different to me, but that's just me--most notably, lack of the word war.

Hey Doc,
I was going to recommend you not waste any more heart beats replying to "long live the disentary mouth" (or whatever that french name means), but as I kept reading his pearls of wizz dumb replies, I was reminded of that mystery poster during those good old glory days of impeachment, "Quidem".

Does anyone other old time FReeper see the similarity?