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Davidson deputies shoot bull that they say charged at them (14 times with AR-15/12ga.)
Winston-Salem Journal ^ | 3/4/03 | Patrick Wilson

Posted on 03/04/2003 10:32:55 AM PST by Rebelbase

"Witnesses question whether officers acted appropriately "

Two deputies with the Davidson County Sheriff's Office shot a bull about 14 times Saturday after it charged at them in a residential neighborhood near Tyro Middle School, authorities said.

No one was injured. The bull was alive and walking in its pasture hours after it was shot.

But when - or even if - the bull died was not clear yesterday.

Deputies were called about 11 a.m. to the 2900 block of Michael Road. One caller reported that a bull was charging at cars and people, according to the sheriff's incident report.

Deputies Brandon Cupp and William Sugg said there was a report that a large, white bull apparently broke through a pasture fence by a small utility station on Michael Road. The deputies could not find the bull's owner, and the bull charged several times at deputies and neighbors who had gone outside to help, said Lt. Sam Rabon.

Both deputies shot at the bull when it charged at them, Rabon said.

Sugg fired a 12-gauge shotgun and Cupp fired his handgun. The bull was hit several times in the head and left side from about 15 feet away.

"They were in fear that they were in imminent danger of being injured by the bull if they didn't shoot it," Rabon said. "Obviously, nobody wants to go out anywhere and shoot an animal. It was a last resort."

Cupp then got an AR-15 rifle from his car to kill the bull, the report said. The AR-15 is a civilian version of a military assault rifle that fires a relatively small bullet. "They realized they had shot the bull and it was probably suffering," Rabon said.

"The logical thing to think was we need to put it down and put it out of its misery."

Cupp and Sugg shot the bull again numerous times, but it jumped a fence and went back into the pasture with other cows.

The gunshots seemed to have little effect on the bull, Rabon said. It was walking in the pasture later.

According to reports filed by the deputies, the bull was shot about 14 times.

The owner of the pasture, Wayne Bame, was out of town Saturday. But a neighbor reached Bame and his wife by telephone, and they called Fred Mock, the superintendent of the Davidson County Schools.

Mock went to the scene and told deputies that he was related to the owner of the bull and that the owner was out of town.

Several hours after the bull was shot, Mock told deputies to stop trying to kill it, Rabon said. He told the deputies that the bull might live in spite of its injuries.

If the bull's injuries were too severe, it would be taken to a slaughterhouse, Mock told deputies.

The sheriff's office said it did not know the name of the bull's owner. Mock declined to comment yesterday on what happened to the bull, or give the name of his relative who owns it. The bull wasn't in its pasture yesterday.

Several neighbors watched the incident and questioned the deputies' decision to shoot.

Sam Hailey of Michael Road said that his wife called 911 when they saw the bull loose, but said that the animal could have been lured back into the pasture using cabbage as bait.

Hailey told deputies to cut the metal fence to let the bull back in the pasture, but the deputies didn't want to do that because cows in the pasture would get out, the sheriff's office said.

"It was a humongous bull," Hailey said. "It was one hell of a pretty bull, and they could have avoided shooting it."

The deputies at the scene told Hailey to go inside

his house, but he refused, the sheriff's office said.

Rabon said that the deputies shot to protect themselves, and that they were in a tough spot because the bull's owner and the property owner could not be found


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Article highlights:

"Sugg fired a 12-gauge shotgun and Cupp fired his handgun. The bull was hit several times in the head and left side from about 15 feet away."

"Cupp then got an AR-15 rifle from his car to kill the bull, the report said. The AR-15 is a civilian version of a military assault rifle that fires a relatively small bullet. "They realized they had shot the bull and it was probably suffering," Rabon said. "

"Cupp and Sugg shot the bull again numerous times, but it jumped a fence and went back into the pasture with other cows."

"The gunshots seemed to have little effect on the bull, Rabon said. It was walking in the pasture later. "

1 posted on 03/04/2003 10:32:55 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Constitution Day; Howlin
Mayberry-2003 ping.
2 posted on 03/04/2003 10:33:44 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; AntiGuv; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
Steaks!

Fire up that grill!

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

3 posted on 03/04/2003 10:34:21 AM PST by mhking (Message to Axis of Weasels: Get in, sit down, shut up, & hold on...)
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To: Rebelbase
"The gunshots seemed to have little effect on the bull, Rabon said. It was walking in the pasture later. "

Or put another way..."We bulls wobble but we don't fall down".

FMCDH

4 posted on 03/04/2003 10:36:35 AM PST by nothingnew (the pendulum always swings back and the socialists are now in the pit)
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To: mhking
Make mine medium rare-Hold the lead.
5 posted on 03/04/2003 10:37:39 AM PST by Normal4me
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To: mhking
PETA's Rodney King incident?

*shudder*
6 posted on 03/04/2003 10:38:07 AM PST by hchutch ("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
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To: Rebelbase
The animal had been charging vehicles, and no, I don't expect cops to know how to lure aggressive bulls back into the pasture.

I will say that I'm wondering why the guy whose wife called 911 wasn't out there with a bag of cole slaw, luring the bull into the pasture (since he knows so much more than the cops).

On another note, I guess I never knew just how much punishment a bull could take.

7 posted on 03/04/2003 10:38:19 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Normal4me
Medium rare? Sissy.

Cut off his horns and wipe his a** before slapping him on my plate.

8 posted on 03/04/2003 10:39:22 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Rebelbase
"So, how was your shift?"

"Slow. A lot of standing around and shooting the bull."
9 posted on 03/04/2003 10:41:50 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: Rebelbase
Oh George! Not the livestock.
10 posted on 03/04/2003 10:42:11 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: nothingnew
"..."We bulls wobble but we don't fall down"."

HA!!!
11 posted on 03/04/2003 10:42:20 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ko_kyi
" A lot of standing around and shooting the bull."

LOL, put yer boots on!
12 posted on 03/04/2003 10:43:30 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Terriergal
I miss sungirl.
13 posted on 03/04/2003 10:43:31 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Normal4me; Poohbah
Just move the bullet to the side of the plate.
14 posted on 03/04/2003 10:43:34 AM PST by hchutch ("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
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To: RobRoy
Is she gone for good? I thought I saw her on something a while back.
15 posted on 03/04/2003 10:47:10 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ko_kyi
You, sir, are a BAD man...
16 posted on 03/04/2003 10:48:28 AM PST by null and void (And you beat me to it. Grrrrrrr...)
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To: RobRoy; Sungirl
Sungirl ping
17 posted on 03/04/2003 10:49:20 AM PST by null and void
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To: Rebelbase
It was a humongous bull,

....and they fully expected a .223 to take it out ? - ...and what was in the shotgun, #6? LOL

18 posted on 03/04/2003 10:51:21 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: nothingnew
LOL
19 posted on 03/04/2003 10:54:41 AM PST by tiki
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To: Rebelbase
I was stationed at Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque. A black bear wondered into the housing area and the Security Police attempted to kill it using 9mm pistols and M-16s. They shot the bear 26 times before it ran off and died.

The 5.56 is a wimpy cartridge.

On the other hand, I've seen my father slaughter cattle using a single shot from a 22 pistol or a ballpeen hammer. You either need to know what you're doing or have a big gun.

20 posted on 03/04/2003 10:54:45 AM PST by mbynack
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