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Saying His Prayers - Suspected Al Qaeda Mastermind Keeping Quiet on Terror Plans
abcnews ^ | 3-3-3 | Brian Ross

Posted on 03/03/2003 8:41:24 AM PST by Indy Pendance

March 3 — Suspected Sept. 11 planner Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is believed to command a global network of al Qaeda terrorists, but in the three days since his arrest he has refused to tell interrogators anything about planned attacks, instead reciting the Koran to himself, U.S. officials told ABCNEWS.

Mohammed was questioned for a third day by U.S. and Pakistani agents today. Analysts said interrogators were seeking details of any planned al Qaeda attacks and leads on the whereabouts of the world's most-wanted man, Osama bin Laden.

Though the arrest of Mohammed in Pakistan on Saturday has been described as the biggest coup yet in the war on terror, he has so far refused to answer any questions, and the computers and cell phones seized during the arrest have not yielded the wealth of information that officials had hoped they would, U.S. officials told ABCNEWS.

Authorities plan to try to get him to open up by using sleep deprivation and psychological disorientation, U.S. officials said.

Mohammed's willingness to talk and the skills and methods of interrogators are expected to be key factors in determining whether the CIA can learn anything useful from the alleged planner of the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Captured in a raid in the city of Rawalpindi, he is now believed to be in U.S. custody at a military base in the region. The Pakistani government, however, said Mohammed remained in Pakistani custody, and denied reports that he had been moved out of the country.

A top priority in the questioning is gaining intelligence that could help disrupt attacks being planned or lead to added precautions, American officials said, and the arrest of Mohammed has already prompted a flurry of activity by the FBI targeting possible al Qaeda sympathizers.

That could mean a domestic law enforcement raid to break up a cell ready to strike, or tighter security at areas Mohammed might name as targets subject to imminent attacks. Intelligence about Mohammed's activities led in part to the orange, or "high," alert that lasted most of February, counterterrorism officials said.

Overseas, officials hope it could mean an operation that leads to the capture of bin Laden, the al Qaeda leader.

Possibility of Panic

Such information is just what he is most likely to try to keep secret, or lie about. Still, terrorists who learn of Mohammed's capture may alter their plans, abandon safe houses or make hurried telephone calls — actions that could expose them to detection.

A U.S. intelligence memo dated Feb. 26 warned Mohammed was overseeing plans to have al Qaeda operatives in the United States attack suspension bridges, gas stations and power plants in New York and other major cities, Newsweek reported Sunday.

The only al Qaeda capture that approaches the magnitude of Mohammed's was that of Abu Zubaydah last March. Zubaydah more than once provided information that sent American security officials scurrying to provide warnings to cities and sectors of the economy, knowing all the while that he could be lying.

Zubaydah did provide some information that was later verified through other sources, officials said. That included intelligence that led to the detention of Jose Padilla, the American federal officials allege was plotting to use a radiological weapon on U.S. soil.

‘Equal to the Liberation of Paris’

U.S. officials were elated by Mohammed's capture.

"This is equal to the liberation of Paris in the second World War," said Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, on ABC's This Week.

"This is a giant step backward for the al Qaeda," Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told Fox News Sunday. "Now their operations commander is simply out of operations."

Officials were not releasing details of their plans for Mohammed. Previous high-level al Qaeda captives have not been brought to the United States, where they would have rights not afforded on foreign soil, U.S. officials say. Where they are, however, has not been disclosed.

Picking His Brain

The next step is attempting to get information from Mohammed.

U.S. officials insist they eschew physical, violent torture, although it is unclear if all of America's allies live by a similar code.

Also less clear are to what extent interrogators use certain methods that human rights groups also regard as torture: sleep deprivation, threats of torture and other techniques intended to confuse, frighten or wear down a captive.

"We don't sanction torture but there are psychological and other ways that we can get most of what we need," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Whatever the method, the goal is to get inside a prisoner's head and get him talking, experts say. An interrogator may try to appeal to Mohammed's vanity, his fears, or whatever lever seems to offer the best avenue to getting information that will stop terrorist attacks.

A Terror History Lesson?

As his interrogation moves away from the immediate, Mohammed can provide counterterrorism officials with a deeper understanding of al Qaeda and its history.

Officials believe he can detail how the Sept. 11 attacks were put together, answering long-standing questions about the plot's origins: Who chose the World Trade Center and Pentagon as targets? Who picked Sept. 11 as the date?

American officials say Mohammed, who was born in Kuwait and has both Pakistani citizenship and ancestry, planned and coordinated key aspects of the Sept. 11 operation.

Any information he provides can be cross-checked with that of Ramzi Binalshibh, his former aide who was captured in September. Binalshibh was a part of the cell that included Mohamed Atta, chief among the Sept. 11 hijackers.

In the mid-1990s, Mohammed also worked with his nephew Ramzi Yousef and two others in the Philippines on a number of operations. Yousef is in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

One plan called for bombing 11 trans-Pacific airliners in flight. A second involved crashing an airplane into CIA headquarters outside of Washington. Officials have suggested these plots — broken up in their infancy with the arrests of Mohammed's associates — were the seeds of Sept. 11.

Mohammed is also believed to have been involved in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

The four plotters were linked to al Qaeda through a financial operative named Khalifa, who is bin Laden's brother-in-law, officials have said. Khalifa is believed to remain at large.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bleedingheartattack; gasstations; khalidsmohammed; khalifa; langley; powerplants; suspensionbridges
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To: strela
Interrogator: Is it safe?
Mohammad: What do you mean?
Int: Is it SAFE?
Mohammad: Is what safe?
Int: Is IT safe?
Mohammad: If you told me was you're talking about, I'd let you know if it's safe or not.
[Mohammad's teeth then get drilled down to the nerve]
Int: Is it safe?
Mohammad: Yes, it's safe. Most definitely. Extremely safe. Hard to imagine anything more safe.
[Interrogator fires up the drill again]
Mohammad: No, it's not at all safe. Very dangerous, in fact.
[more drilling, this time sticking the drill bit deep into Mohammad's gums
Int: Is it safe?
41 posted on 03/03/2003 9:29:25 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: xsmommy
given his hirsute appearance, i think a full body wax might loosen his tongue a bit....


That's what the duct tape is for! Actually can't we use some "truth serum" to loosen him up? Even laughing gas works well - that can't be "torture"!

Mohammed: "Hah hah! Yeh 'ol Osammy is worm food - there were so many pieces we just raked some dirt over the area and left - Har Har!"

42 posted on 03/03/2003 9:29:25 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Boycott Turkey! Have ham for Thanksgiving!)
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To: HamiltonJay
Speaking of "nuts", a pair of pliers might prove useful;)
43 posted on 03/03/2003 9:37:31 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Indy Pendance
This thread just was added to the Free Republic Highlights, 3/03/03 thread.
44 posted on 03/03/2003 9:45:50 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
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To: Indy Pendance
The US has invited thousands of journalists ....

Perhaps Dan Rather would volunteer to participate in the torture to give us a first hand account on how effective it is.

45 posted on 03/03/2003 10:19:16 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Frank_2001
The best way to get information is to put him in a room filled with gold and jewels. And torture devices. Ask him to choose which he prefers. If his info pans out, he gets the gold and jewels and lives happily ever after (or so he thinks). If it doesn't pan out, he gets a little taste of torture. Keep it up until he breaks.
46 posted on 03/03/2003 10:25:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Indy Pendance
I doubt we would say to the world he is singing like a bird alerting all Al Queda to find cover! This is probably misinformation fo rmedia consumptions.
47 posted on 03/03/2003 10:27:59 AM PST by smith288 (Singes qui capitulent et mangent du fromage)
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To: 1Old Pro
I have a hard time believing anything ABC reports. Their "U.S. Official" is undoubtedly some left wing anti-Bush person who has a very low level position and know nothing about what is going on with the interrogations.

I agree. The CIA is not known for issuing press releases on the progress of their interrogation of Al Queda leaders. This is just some made up stuff from the rumor mill.

49 posted on 03/03/2003 10:32:58 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: xsmommy
given his hirsute appearance, i think a full body wax might loosen his tongue a bit....

Then perhaps give him nothing to wear except burquas. Coupled with sleep deprivation, our guys could have him singing like a canary within a few days.

50 posted on 03/03/2003 10:39:51 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: cosine
I would like a little of both, revenge and information.
51 posted on 03/03/2003 10:51:58 AM PST by LaGrone
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To: Conservababe
"Something is bothering me and I must speak."

I have to agree with you. There are limits beyond which we must not even think or imagine.
52 posted on 03/03/2003 10:56:39 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Indy Pendance
Since these terrorists hate women so much, just threaten to give him a sex change operation. I remember Atta said he never wanted women to come to his grave, especially pregnant women. Well, after they swabbed his body up with Qtips, there wasn't enough body to bury. If they hate women so much why do they want 72 of them in eternity? I mean I love my husband but I do not want 72 men with me in eternity! NO WAY JOSE!
53 posted on 03/03/2003 11:33:35 AM PST by buffyt ("In Iraq, protesters are not covered by the media. They're covered by dirt,")
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To: Indy Pendance
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, sign zee papers.

I cannot sign zee papers! he replies.

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, sign zee papers.

He replies, I cannot sign zee papers.

Once again, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, sign zee papers.

Once again he replies, I cannot sign zee papers. You have broken all my fingers.

That is what I would like to see in the interrogation room.



54 posted on 03/03/2003 11:36:35 AM PST by buffyt ("In Iraq, protesters are not covered by the media. They're covered by dirt,")
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To: 1Old Pro
More likely, IMO, the whole account is disinformation from a leaker.
55 posted on 03/03/2003 11:42:33 AM PST by the_doc
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To: Cap Huff
I have to agree with you. There are limits beyond which we must not even think or imagine.

I worry not of the terrorists demise, but I do worry of us before they die, if we go over the limits.

56 posted on 03/03/2003 11:46:49 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: Maceman
Why would the government leak this? It would seem the better tactic would be to say that the computers and CDs yielded a wealth of new information.

Well, I believe the FBI wants his coconspirators to believe they are safe and stay where they are. If they think he is talking, they'll be on the run and the FBI may not be able to track them down.

57 posted on 03/03/2003 11:57:50 AM PST by Attillathehon
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To: cosine
>Torture often elicits what the tortured thinks the torturer wants to hear.

Which is why we are still looking for Daniel Pearl's body.

58 posted on 03/03/2003 12:08:02 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
Sean Hannity is going to discuss this torture issue on his program which is airing now.
59 posted on 03/03/2003 12:14:24 PM PST by Conservababe
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