[RobFromGa]

Rush:

Dems want to avoid filibuster so as not to set precedent, maybe there are more votes than 55, this is sounding lame Rush, no one is happy to be changing the Constitution,

Republicans don't want to call cloture.

[RobFromGa]

Rush:

Strategy is that the Senators have respect for Senate, don't want to change rules.

I don't think Rush sounds like he particularly likes the explanation he is giving for this.

[Sacajaweau]

There's another part of the 3/5th possibility that sticks in my head. Say, we have 60 people who SAY they will vote for Estrada and then ONE doesn't when it comes down to the actual vote.

Do you trust the DEMS??

[Political Junkie Too]

Rush is saying just what I posted on Saturday in this thread:

Maybe I'm being anal here (it won't be the first time), but is a filibuster not a filibuster until it is attempted to shut it off? The House has a cloture rule that automatically ends debate; the Senate has a cloture vote that allows for unlimited debate. Until someone tries to stop debate, it is just debate. Once an attempt to stop debate fails and debate continues, wouldn't that then become filibuster?

-PJ