Posted on 03/03/2003 2:46:58 AM PST by HAL9000
The pope wants to go in front of UNO if its message with Bush does not stop the war
Jean Paul II will ask to address personally to the Security Council of the United Nations if its message with the American president George W Bush does not convince it to give up a war against Iraq, learned Monday the AFP from diplomatic source vaticane.L' possibility of a direct address of the pope in the United Nations was evoked during the maintenance of the pope with the secretary-general of UNO, Kofi Annan, there are two weeks in the Vatican, one added of the same source.Le cardinal Pio Laghi left Rome Monday morning for Washington carrying a message of peace as it must give to the American president. The cardinal, old apostolic nuncio (ambassador) in Washington and friend of the Bush family, hopes to be received mercredi.Une delegation of American religious leaders forwarded last week to Jean Paul II a letter wishing that the head of the catholic Church go to ONU."Il is allocated only to the pope himself to make such a decision ", commented on Sunday on a chain of television the archbishop Renato Martino, old observant of the Holy See at the United Nations and current president of the pontifical Council for justice and the peace, which had been charged to transmit to the missive.Si the pope, had tired and old of almost 82 years, had he could benefit from it to go to request in Ground Zero, affirms one diplomatic source vaticane.Ce gesture would be very appreciated by all the Americans, adds one. He had been considered last August at the time of the voyage of the pope in Canada for the world Days of Jeunesse.Dans diplomatic circles of the Holy See, one estimates that the parallel actions and concommitantes of the pope on the two protagonists of the crisis, Iraq and the United States, represent a significant chance so that a war is evité.Le Iraqi president Saddam Hussein should take account of the risk to be relatively insulated in the Arab world if he made the deaf person ear with a call to order of the Arab League, even observes one of the same source.De, underlines one, president Bush, of methodist confession, should not receive from one who asked nearly a billion and half of Christians of the whole world to fast for peace Wednesday. This fast is also preached by the World Council of Churches of Geneva where Protestant Eglises and orthodoxes.En sit reiterating Sunday its call to all the Christians, the pope confirmed his determination with all to try for the paix."Sans to go in front of the difficulties, it is necessary to look for and traverse all the possible ways to avoid the war, which always brings with it serious mournings and consequences for everyone ", he launched to the thousands of brought together pilgrims Saint-Pierre place under the eye of the cameras of télévision.Le cardinal Laghi will make any possible sound to convince president Bush that a unilateral attack except UNO against Iraq is a "crime against peace", Foreign Minister of the pope, Mgr Jean Louis Tauran.
Cleanup on aisle six.
Yes the ancient Catholic teaching of slap-happy nudism has always been a sticking point for Puritan America...
Rotfl. Why don't you go scratch your itch with somebody who might care, like the LibertyForum crowd, madam?
Me, I'm just happy Israel has the fifth largest nuclear arsenal in the world and is perfectly capable of eradicating terrorists, despots, eurosnots and collected evil dross completely independently of your "good will" (whatever that might be ;).
I think the Pope should go as THE Human Shield in Iraq. He failed to protect the Serbs against ClintoNATO. He has, for reasons unkown to me, abandoned the AMChurch to the little foxes---perhaps a good thing in the long run, but painful to live through nontheless.
In preventing the US from carrying out its Wilsonian suicide dreams in the middle east he could actually save the US from the fate of Europe in the 20th century.
Although at this point in history we are sprinting madly towards destruction--embracing it like a long-awaited lover...
That wasn't true in the past. The few Episcopalian congregations that adhere to their historic doctrine are still Reformed in the United States.
For details, read on:
"...In England, Calvinism also prevailed since it was the theology behind the Thirty-Nine Articles (1563) of the Church of England" (Paul Enns, *Moody Handbook of Theology*. Chicago: Moody Press, 1989), p. 476.
The Episcopalians held as their subordinate standards the 39 Articles of Religion. This confession is Calvinistic in emphasis.
During that historic period, not only the 39 Articles of Religion ("Episcopalians"), but whenever you read of the Waldensians, the Bohemian Brethren (in Poland), the Huguenots, you're reading of churches that were Calvinistic.
Historic Protestant, Episcopalian doctrine is Reformed and Calvinistic. The Episcopalian church *that adheres to its historic doctrine* is still Reformed in the United States.
X. OF FREE WILL. 39 Articles of Religion.
The condition of Man after the fall of Adam is such, that he cannot turn and prepare himself, by his own natural strength and good works, to faith, and calling upon God. Wherefore we have no power to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God, without the grace of God by Christ preventing us, that we may have a good will, and working with us, when we have that good will.
XVII. OF PREDESTINATION AND ELECTION:
Predestination to Life is the everlasting purpose of God, whereby (before the foundations of the world were laid) he hath constantly decreed by his counsel secret to us, to deliver from curse and damnation those whom he hath chosen in Christ out of mankind, and to bring them by Christ to everlasting salvation, as vessels made to honour. Wherefore, they which be endued with so excellent a benefit of God, be called according to God's purpose by his Spirit working in due season: they through Grace obey the calling: they be justified freely: they be made sons of God by adoption: they be made like the image of his only-begotten Son Jesus Christ: they walk religiously in good works, and at length, by God's mercy, they attain to everlasting felicity.
And it coincided almost to the day with the news that two Orthodox nuns were raped in Kosovo by "freedom fighters" as NATO "liberators" stood around scratching their butts. The emotions are too deep for words...
Is that your best reply? Come on!!! Put some effort into it.
Why this conflict? Why now? Very disappointing indeed.
Ludicrous and beneath contempt. I ping others who might want to stomp your position further, but like myself, I doubt anyone will conclude it is worth the time.
Correct! Invade before the Papist King speaks!
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