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Driver's license finger scan being considered
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Posted on 03/02/2003 6:52:16 PM PST by chance33_98



WKRN, Tennessee

Driver's license finger scan being considered

Public safety officials see a proposal requiring driver's license applicants to submit to a new kind of fingerprinting as a way to combat fraud, but civil libertarians have concerns.

The state Legislature is considering Senate Bill 423, under which a person's finger would be scanned. The scan will identify up to 40 unique points on the finger, said David Beatty, project director of the Department of Public Safety program.

Beatty called the it ``touch signature,'' but the American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma wonders who will have access to that information.

``It is a privacy issue, and we would have great concerns about what it would lead to,'' said Joann Bell, executive director of the ACLU of Oklahoma.

``There's a possibility under homeland security that the driver's license could become part of a national ID.''

Beatty disagreed, but said the driver's license has become accepted identification nationwide.

``The importance of the person holding the license and the person pictured on the license being the same is paramount. Society has dictated that,'' Beatty said.

The finger scan program would ensure the person who passes a driving test is the same person who goes to the tag agent to get a license, he said.

It also will ensure the person who goes to a tag agent to replace a lost driver's license is legitimate, Beatty said.

With the proposed new system, tag agents will be able to electronically check the license with the Public Safety Department to ensure the appropriate person receives the license.

Oklahoma issues four-year driver's licenses so it would take four years for all licenses in the state to be issued using a finger scan.

As of Dec. 31, 2.3 million people had driver's licenses and another 230,000 who don't drive had ID cards, Beatty said.

Senate Bill 423 is before the Senate and likely will be considered next week, said Sen. Robert M. Kerr, D-Altus, its author.

If the legislation becomes law, Oklahoma would join eight other states with a finger-imaging system: Colorado, Mississippi, Georgia, Hawaii, Kentucky, North Carolina, Texas and West Virginia.


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1 posted on 03/02/2003 6:52:16 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98

Good idea.
2 posted on 03/02/2003 6:56:05 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: chance33_98
Your papers pleaze!
3 posted on 03/02/2003 7:00:00 PM PST by KickRightRudder
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To: chance33_98
I think we can all show our solidarity with this finger imaging idea by holding our digit aloft in a salute.
4 posted on 03/02/2003 7:05:43 PM PST by billorites
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To: chance33_98; mykdsmom; billbears; Overtaxed; Darth Reagan; Phantom Lord; Howlin; wimpycat
If the legislation becomes law, Oklahoma would join eight other states with a finger-imaging system: Colorado, Mississippi, Georgia, Hawaii, Kentucky, North Carolina, Texas and West Virginia.

Looking at my NCDL, it was last renewed in 3/02.
Last year, I got a duplicate by ordering it online... which obviously did not require my fingerprint.

Is this something new?
If so, I've got a particular finger in mind for them to scan. :)

5 posted on 03/02/2003 7:10:06 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Hey, I just heard on Fox that the guy they captured yesterday went to A&T!

Whew!

6 posted on 03/02/2003 7:11:16 PM PST by Howlin (q)
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To: billorites
The social finger or no?
7 posted on 03/02/2003 7:13:25 PM PST by ward_of_the_state
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To: Howlin
"Whew!" indeed. LOL.

I seem to recall that he went to A&T from an earlier FR thread some time ago.

8 posted on 03/02/2003 7:14:10 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: VaBthang4
Good idea? I have a finger for them.
9 posted on 03/02/2003 7:15:44 PM PST by thepitts
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To: VaBthang4
Is this before ,or after they shoot your dog??
10 posted on 03/02/2003 7:15:57 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: chance33_98
The borders are open, but the gov't wants our biometric data.

What's wrong with this picture?

11 posted on 03/02/2003 7:16:02 PM PST by Mulder
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To: chance33_98
If the legislation becomes law, Oklahoma would join eight other states with a finger-imaging system: Colorado, Mississippi, Georgia, Hawaii, Kentucky, North Carolina, Texas and West Virginia.


I live in GA, we don't use touch-print imaging on our driver's licenses. The article is wrong.
12 posted on 03/02/2003 7:18:57 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I live in GA, we don't use touch-print imaging on our driver's licenses. The article is wrong.

See my #5... I think it's wrong too. I believe I would have heard of this if we had it.

13 posted on 03/02/2003 7:27:06 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Mulder
The borders are open, but the gov't wants our biometric data.

"Dispel Mark of Beast Phobia", replace cards with biometrics, 100 million users, pilot launched

NY Supreme Court Decision-Denial of Benefits For Refusal To Participate in biometric fingerprinting

14 posted on 03/02/2003 7:32:48 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freep On)
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To: VaBthang4
Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?

Ron Paul, MD

15 posted on 03/02/2003 7:33:05 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear.)
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To: Constitution Day
At the very least, wouldn't they notify us, give us a warning, and tell us they need to be renewed? Anyway, I think the writer made an error.
16 posted on 03/02/2003 7:34:10 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: chance33_98
Civil liberties issues aside, there is a deeper problem with biometrics.

If a password is hacked you get another password, if an official document is stolen you get another.

If some bright criminal finds a way to fake your fingerprint, you cannot get another. This won't be foolproof and criminals will have an incentive to find a way to defeat it.

Like the CD and DVD and cable anti-copy software, it took how long, a month or two?

Once some creep copies your print or retina scan or whatever, how are you going to prove it is really you with the card? Or that it was not you in Denver the night of the 15th...
17 posted on 03/02/2003 7:36:00 PM PST by DBrow
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To: AdamSelene235
Paul/Keyes in 2004.
18 posted on 03/02/2003 7:37:27 PM PST by Mulder
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To: chance33_98
I'm guessing that gov't mandated biometrics will be "the line" for a lot of patriots.
19 posted on 03/02/2003 7:38:06 PM PST by Mulder
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To: DBrow
This is how they'll get us to participate in being chipped. There is no foolproof ID method. (even chips aren't foolproof, but the sheeple will be desperate and angstful).

Repeat after me...if it can be read...it can be copied. (where it == fingerprints, DNA, retinal scans, anything...)

What the sheeple do when faced with chipping is another matter entirely. (I predict they will simply bend over...'if you have nothing to hide, what's wrong with being chipped?' 'Only chipped people are absolutely free (from suspicion)')

20 posted on 03/02/2003 7:40:28 PM PST by Black Agnes
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