Turkish Parliament Speaker Says Troop Vote Rejected

It has been confirmed.

Yes : 264

No : 251

Abs : 19

No. Resolutions related with war are not passed to the President for approval. The parliament's ruling is enough in these things.

I love it when these little countries act like they have a choice in the matter.

Don't be an arrogant jerk. It is their country, they do have final say. Doesn't mean that their decisions don't have consequences, but sovereignty matters.

Don't you see the hypocritical irony of your post on a conservative website? If we believe in the principals of private property rights, how can we then ignore a country's sovereignty?(other than in acts of war)

Think it through next time.

Are you sure? a_Turk was saying on another thread that he expected the President to veto it as unconstitutional, and that the parliament would vote to override.

I like your interpretation better!

What's "Thank you" in Turkish?

"Loan guarantee."

I agree. And the tough position we find ourself in is to allow the process to work even if it hampers immediate goals. That is the difference between nation building and hegemony. This is good news especially with the confirmed destruction of ONE MISSLE in Icrack.

I'm sure. That matter was discussed in the Turkish press a few days ago and the outcome was that the constitutionm did not give the President the authority to veto such a resolution as it did not have to be approved by him/her.

With the "Elite" Republican Guard hauling ass to Tikrit that doesn't leave much left in Nothern Iraq except for those troops who are stealing all the white bedsheets.

Beware the "ides of March"!

Turkey to Allow Basing of U.S. Troops

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By SUZAN FRASER, Associated Press Writer

ANKARA, Turkey - Turkey's parliament Saturday voted to allow in 62,000 U.S. combat troops to open a northern front against Iraq (news - web sites), ending weeks of delay.

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The vote, however, was extremely close at 264-251 reflecting the deep Turkish divisions over whether to back Washington in a war that is strongly opposed by an overwhelming majority of the Turkish public.

The motion empowers the government to authorize the basing of up to 62,000 troops, 255 warplanes and 65 helicopters. It also allows the government to send thousands of Turkish troops into northern Iraq.

But Turkey and the United States still have to seal an agreement over the military, political and economic conditions of the deployment before troops can arrive and ships carrying armor for the U.S. 4th Infantry Division anchored off the Turkish coast can begin to unload.

Turkey has been seeking billions of dollars in grants and loans to cushion its frail economy from the effects of war. It has also been seeking assurances that a separate Kurdish state will not be created in the aftermath of a possible war.

A diplomat said the signing could come as early as Saturday night.

Turkey's government had been putting off any decision on the U.S. request for weeks, frustrating U.S. war planners who want to use Turkey as a staging point to open a northern front against Iraq that would shorten a war with Turkey's southern neighbor.

Parliament speaker Bulent Arinc opened the session by cautioning legislators that "we are here for a historic session."

Opposition politicians urged a "no" vote.

"We are calling on you not to be involved with this disgusting war. Turn back when you still have the chance, otherwise the whole Turkish public will suffer," lawmaker Onder Sav from the Republican People's Party said in parliament

Salih Kapusuz, deputy chairman of the governing Justice and Development Party, called for a "yes" vote and rejected criticism that the government was bowing to U.S. pressure.

"We are not afraid of any force in the world, let alone of the United States. We're just doing whatever is best for the interests of this country," he said.

The Justice party has been having difficulty selling the unpopular measure to its public and even to many lawmakers.

Polls show that more than 80 percent of the Turkish public opposes a war and many fear that a conflict will endanger Turkey's frail economic recovery.

Hours before the vote, the party's leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, met with party legislators to try and persuade them to back the U.S. troop deployment.

Some 2 kilometers (1.2 miles) away from parliament, some 50,000 Turks held a rally to protest the war.

"No to War," and "We don't want to be America's soldiers'," they shouted as some 4,000 police stood guard. Some carried banners that read: "The people will stop this war," and "Budget for education not war."

But the government also fears rebuffing the United States could leave it without US$15 billion in grants and loans that Washington has pledged to help buttress Turkey's economy.

To prevent the creation of a Kurdish state, Turkey wants to send tens of thousands of troops into northern Iraq in case of war.

Kurdish leaders have warned that they will resist if the United States allows Turks to join in an invasion of northern Iraq.

Diplomats say Washington wanted approval from Turkey at least three weeks ago. The Cabinet finally submitted a proposal to parliament earlier this week to permit the deployment.

Party leaders had called for a Thursday vote, but that was put off until Saturday amid signs that some legislators would vote against the motion.

Justice party leaders have tried to show they seek a peaceful solution to the crisis in Iraq and that the government proposal is designed to protect the country in the event of war.

"Everyone is trying to show the government as if it is saying 'yes to war.' No one in their right minds would say 'yes' to war," Erdogan said at a political rally Friday.

Yes : 264
No : 251
Abs : 19

Let's hope they don't know the Florida recount move.