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To: Notwithstanding
I am old enough that when I learned the pledge, the phrase wasn't in there.
Adding it was a pathetic little slap at "Godless Comunism" and acomplished nothing except to break the word flow of thte pledge and cause division among Americans.

It is past time to take it out and use the original pledge.

So9

3 posted on 02/28/2003 2:48:14 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Servant of the Nine
yawn.
9 posted on 02/28/2003 2:58:18 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.")
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To: Servant of the Nine
I think you will find that - although a few will agree with you - you are, by far, in the minority in your opinion.

Even the majority of very liberal Clinton lovers I know very much support the "Under God" statement. To deny God in our pledge is a refusal to give God the thanks for our country in the first place. Don't forget, without God's Grace, the United States would not be here. He has blessed our country through almost 227 years (not including the "colony days", despite our turn away from Him.

I think it's only moral and right to at least aknowledge him when we recite the pledge.
10 posted on 02/28/2003 2:59:58 PM PST by TheBattman
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To: Servant of the Nine
Sorry, I am old enough that I know it both ways, and I TOTALLY DISAGREE with you. We are ONE NATION...under God. Our currency displays, " in GOD we TRUST".....ya want that changed too???
15 posted on 02/28/2003 3:17:38 PM PST by pollywog
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To: Servant of the Nine
Right on. There are far more important things than trying to keep in place what was installed during the Red Scare sixty years ago.
18 posted on 02/28/2003 3:46:17 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: Servant of the Nine
I too learned the pledge before "under God," was added, I was in favor of the addition at the time, I am very strongly opposed to it's removal now.

A slap at communism is always worthwhile.

39 posted on 02/28/2003 6:17:04 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: Servant of the Nine
Our national motto on our money says: In God We Trust!

Our Declaration of Independence names the Creator as the source of our Liberty!

It is appropriate to say....ONe Nation, Under God!
44 posted on 02/28/2003 7:42:07 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Except that the judges forbade anyone from using the words "Under God" under penalty of law.

Well, they didn't, but if we say that they did then it sounds meaner and it justifies being vindictive. Quite a few people spent some time insisting that the ruling made it ILLEGAL for anyone to use the phrase "under God" when uttering the Pledge. In other words, quite a bit of the backlash is based on willful ignorance.
47 posted on 02/28/2003 9:07:42 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Servant of the Nine
I am old enough that when I learned the pledge, the phrase wasn't in there.

Adding it was a pathetic little slap at "Godless Comunism" and acomplished nothing except to break the word flow of thte pledge and cause division among Americans.

It is past time to take it out and use the original pledge.

So9

I also am old enough to have learned the original pledge and I agree the phrase "under God" is an unnecessary divisive distraction. We should use the original version of the pledge.

54 posted on 03/01/2003 7:53:13 AM PST by FreeLibertarian (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
I think you’re generally right. This is like the anti-flag burning law/amendment issue. More symbolic than substantive. It brings out the hot headed emotional side of the RP, not our best public face. This is not the hill I want to die on.
59 posted on 03/01/2003 8:16:07 AM PST by elfman2 on another computer
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To: Servant of the Nine
I am old enough that when I learned the pledge, the phrase wasn't in there.

Adding it was a pathetic little slap at "Godless Comunism" and acomplished nothing except to break the word flow of thte pledge and cause division among Americans.

It is past time to take it out and use the original pledge.

Exactly. In their zeal to sneak in a government endorsement of religion through the back door, they took a unifying pledge and added a divisive clause. Anytime the Pledge is recited in public, the synchronization of the recitation falls apart after "one nation".

Hopefully the plaintiffs challenged the 1954 law that added "under God", as well as the Constitutionality of saying the "new" Pledge in schools. If that's the case, the Supremes can simply invalidate it as religiously based (as they will no doubt do if they look at the legislative history). If not, they are likely to refuse to decide an issue which had not been brought before them, and feel compelled to toss the whole thing. Which would be a shame.

-Eric

61 posted on 03/01/2003 8:18:30 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Servant of the Nine
"It is past time to take it out and use the original pledge"

That could be, but it was put there through legal legislature, and it should be through the legislature that it be removed.

NOT through the efforts of left-wing radical extremist judges.

My personal thoughts on Prayer in School & the GOD in the pledge?

They should NOT be in there "by law" but neither should they be BANNED "by law". Both are bad and subject to abuses.
69 posted on 03/01/2003 8:26:20 AM PST by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Servant of the Nine
LET US NOT FORGET THAT MIKE NEWDOW, THE CREEP WHO STARTED THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, LIED!!!!!!!
HIS DAUGHTER GOES TO CALVERY BAPTIST CHURCH IN COSTA MESA AND SHE LOVES THE LORD AND NEVER WANTED ANY PART OF THIS, NOR DID HER MOTHER.
I CAN SEE WHY THIS WOMAN LEFT THIS LEFTIST, ATHEIST FREAK IN THE FIRST PLACE.
NEWDOW NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES OF AT THE VERY LEAST CONTEMPT.
126 posted on 03/01/2003 10:26:19 AM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Servant of the Nine
Didn't Ike get the words "under God" inserted into the Pledge of Allegiance ... shortly after we and our allies won World War Two?
153 posted on 03/01/2003 2:03:24 PM PST by GretchenEE (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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