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Acting out - Hollywood antiwar sentiment is loud and clear. And so is the opposition
Philly.com ^ | February 20, 2003 | By Beth Gillin

Posted on 02/28/2003 11:18:02 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

Posted on Thu, Feb. 20, 2003 story:PUB_DESC
Acting out
Hollywood antiwar sentiment is loud and clear. And so is the opposition.

Inquirer Staff Writer

Martin Sheen and James Cromwell turned out for Saturday's protest on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Celebrities do affect public opinion, media experts say.
Martin Sheen and James Cromwell turned out for Saturday's protest on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Celebrities do affect public opinion, media experts say.

It's the largest outpouring of star-powered anti-war sentiment since the Vietnam War.

Barbra Streisand, Martin Sheen, Jessica Lange, Spike Lee, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Martin Scorsese, Sean Penn, Robert Redford, Dustin Hoffman, Ossie Davis, Robert Altman.

Some of the country's biggest stars are loudly against invading Iraq.

Edward Norton, Tyne Daly, Danny Glover, Rob Reiner, Penelope Cruz, Alec Baldwin, Mike Farrell, Janeane Garofalo, Woody Harrelson and Rosario Dawson.

The list goes on.

They're marching and speechifying, signing petitions and making commercials to rally opposition against Gulf War Two: Return to Iraq.

Not everyone is impressed.

"If Washington is a Hollywood for ugly people, Hollywood is a Washington for the simpleminded," cracked maverick U.S. Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.).

Nevertheless, people are listening. "Celebrities have credibility with the general public," said Dennis Broe, a professor of film, media and television history at Long Island University. "As they raise the profile of the opposition, it hurts the president."

"They definitely influence opinion," agreed Paul Levinson, chairman of communications and media studies at Fordham University. "There's even a term for it in propaganda: false association, or appeal to false authority."

What this means, he said, is that a person admired as an authority on moviemaking or acting is easily accepted as an authority on politics as well.

The current rage for Five-Minute Ordinary People Celebrities hasn't dimmed the power of Hollywood stars by so much as a watt, Levinson said.

"Joe Millionaire is still an average Joe. He lacks the clout of a star whose work we've admired over and over on the screen."

But can they stop the war? So far, the Hollywood Left has managed to seriously annoy some in the American Middle.

By yesterday afternoon, 30,531 people had logged on to www.ipetitions.com to sign an online petition called "Citizens Against Celebrity 'Pundits.' "

The petition protests movie- star marchers "using their celebrity to interfere with the defense of our country."

Accompanying many signatures are blistering comments - "low-intelligence egomaniacs," "stay in your fantasy world and out of foreign affairs" - as well as boycott threats.

It may seem that the antiwar stars speak for all of Hollywood. They don't. Many actors are Republican (Heather Locklear, Kelsey Grammer, Babylon Five's Tracy Scoggins, Senator-turned-Law-&-Order-star Fred Thompson.)

Others are libertarian (Drew Carey, Lisa Kennedy, Kurt Russell, Penn and Teller, Tommy Chong, Russell Means).

Emma Caulfield, who plays Anya on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, describes herself as "ultraconservative." Conservative Everybody Loves Raymond star Patricia Heaton is honorary chairperson of Feminists for Life.

Professionally they may all get along. But when it comes down to the political and the personal, Hollywood Hawks and Tinseltown Liberals can clash.

There was Bush supporter James Woods, tooling down the highway in his car on Feb. 3, when he heard David Clennon, star of CBS's The Agency, on the radio comparing the "moral climate" of America to Nazi Germany.

Except, Clennon told Sean Hannity, host of the national syndicated show, Hitler was smarter than Bush.

Furious, Woods called the show and peppered Clennon with quotes from Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, who famously called war "the continuation of politics by other means."

In January, Woods came under fire for telling the host of a Los Angeles TV show: "If they harbor terrorists, we should wipe them off the face of the Earth. Eventually, one of these terrorist diaper-heads is going to come around and do something more horrible."

Callers complained that the insult was a racist slur. "I think Mr. Woods is off his medication," said Jean Abinader of the Arab American Institute in Washington.

Last month, hawk Ron Silver almost caused an international incident at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Enraged that Patrick Cox, president of the European Union parliament, called the United States an imperialist nation, Silver jumped from his table and lectured Europe for sitting on the sidelines in the Balkans while America fought for peace.

Afterward, he and Cox went out for a drink. Lately, Silver's been popping up on TV talk shows, urging viewers to give war a chance.

Pro-war or anti-, celebrities seem to over-emote when overseas.

In Spain last fall, Jessica Lange said, "It is an embarrassing time to be an American. It really is. It's humiliating."

Conservative John Malkovich caused an outcry last summer when he told a group of Cambridge students he'd like to shoot a certain anti-Israel, anti-American member of Parliament.

When Bush supporter R. Lee Ermey, a former Marine who played the scary drill sergeant in Full Metal Jacket, was asked by a London newspaper about a certain well-known diva's anti-war statements, Ermey thundered:

"Once again, Barbra Streisand has opened her alligator-sized mouth wide before her hummingbird brain has had a chance to catch up. Ms. Streisand does not speak for me or many other folks in this business."

Indeed, the biggest majority in Hollywood is silent.

Perhaps fearful that any position they might take could impede the flow of box-office receipts, most stars are straddling the fence.

Even Bruce Willis, White House spokesman for children in foster care, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who may run as a Republican for governor of California, are mum on Iraq.

Robin Williams, who has entertained troops in Afghanistan, says he's still making up his mind.

"It's difficult," he told the New York Post. "Winning the war would be quick. Occupying the country is the second part of the equation... . How long would we be there? And how much will it cost? Nine trillion dollars? Ah, what's that among friends?"

Even if the country goes to war and Americans rally around the President, Levinson said, the celebrities who advised against it aren't likely to suffer long-term effects.

He points to Jane Fonda, who won an Oscar for Klute in 1971, and sparked outrage the next year when she went to Hanoi to protest the Vietnam War. Her career went into eclipse, but by 1978 all was forgiven and she won another Oscar, for Coming Home.

"And if she made another movie today," Levinson said, "I've no doubt she'd be embraced."



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To: SpookBrat
I had a couple cousins in Vietnam (1 Marine, 1 Army) for that reason alone, I hate Hanoi Jane. Living in a military town, it is easy to see the damage that evil shemale did. Grrrrrrr!
141 posted on 03/02/2003 5:13:33 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: MeeknMing
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142 posted on 03/02/2003 7:48:48 PM PST by JLO
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To: =Intervention=
Ha! I got you beat, I think! LOL. The first movie the VN war veteran I still live with today took me to see was "Good Morning, Vietnam" in 1988, I think. The second and last movie we saw "in" a theater was just a few years after that. Some old geezers fishing through the ice up in MN, LOL - Walter Mathou & Jack Lemmon starred. LMAO!!!

JLO

Haven't been to a movie theater since; and don't care to put up with it. Geeze, first off the price of the whole evening - you can sure do better than that staying home and being awhole lot more comfortable than being upright in a theater seat.

Ok for singles/new dates. I sure don't get why others go to theaters. Except for the new releases - ? Well, my thought is, how fast do folks have to see them, anyway?

Good movies prevail. They come out on other venues, besides the newest box office hit. I viewed box office hits when I was in my twenties.

Good, new movies make it to satellite/cable within a year or so, I think; but I could be wrong about the date.

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143 posted on 03/02/2003 8:20:52 PM PST by JLO
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To: SirAllen
Hi, I agree, Mail Call is a great show!

I think he really knows his military stuff, and adds military humor, from one of those that were already there and served.

JLO
144 posted on 03/02/2003 8:47:11 PM PST by JLO
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To: JLO
Thanks. bttt ...
145 posted on 03/03/2003 1:46:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
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146 posted on 03/08/2003 5:20:06 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe

147 posted on 03/09/2003 3:26:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing

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148 posted on 03/11/2003 8:13:52 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
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149 posted on 03/12/2003 3:59:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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150 posted on 03/12/2003 5:09:21 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
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151 posted on 03/12/2003 5:41:43 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Even if the country goes to war and Americans rally around the President, Levinson said, the celebrities who advised against it aren't likely to suffer long-term effects.

They might win another Oscar and not lose their Hollywood friends, but I firmly believe these stars are going to suffer at the box office, because people like myself WILL boycott certain actors. And I am not the only one and I firmly believe we add up.

152 posted on 03/12/2003 5:47:47 AM PST by lawgirl
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To: MeeknMing
Hollywood was never angry with Jane Fonda. She sat on the guns that shot down our pilots, pranced in front of rooms where our sons and fathers were tortured, and Hollywood was never upset with her. The public was angry, but never the "STARS" (Stupid Tarts And Radical Scum)

Jane Fonda, who won an Oscar for Klute in 1971, and sparked outrage the next year when she went to Hanoi to protest the Vietnam War. Her career went into eclipse, but by 1978 all was forgiven and she won another Oscar, for Coming Home.

153 posted on 03/12/2003 6:13:10 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: MeeknMing
"Once again, Barbra Streisand has opened her alligator-sized mouth wide before her hummingbird brain has had a chance to catch up. Ms. Streisand does not speak for me or many other folks in this business."

Don't hold back, Mr. Ermey. Tell us how you REALLY feel! LOL!!

154 posted on 03/23/2003 7:29:34 PM PST by Sister_T
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
You can also take movies out from many libraries.

That's what I do. I like free. Free is good.

155 posted on 03/23/2003 7:44:10 PM PST by Sister_T
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