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To: Protagoras
I feel that killing a baby at 8.99 months is blatent murder but morning after pills and BC's, which cause miscarriages, are not.

Euphemisms like "miscarriages" are not useful. Nor are qualifiers like "blatent".

Your basic probelem isn't with the killing but with the timing, at least it seems that way. If not please explain.

Timing is everything, yes. When does the sperm/egg get a spirit and a soul or what ever part of that distinguishes us from the animals? And it doesn't matter anyway because you can't prove that a man has one or is different from an animal in that regard. So as far as proof to the heathen, we will never have it.

87 posted on 02/28/2003 10:38:36 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
So murder is ok depending on who is doing it or when?

When does the sperm/egg get a spirit and a soul or what ever part of that distinguishes us from the animals?

And you have no problem with partial birth abortion by this standard even though you said you thought it was "blatent" murder. Whatever that is.

Is this all biblical? Never mind don't answer, the only one who thinks you are a wonk on that is you.

107 posted on 02/28/2003 10:52:03 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: biblewonk
Timing is everything, yes. When does the sperm/egg get a spirit and a soul or what ever part of that distinguishes us from the animals? And it doesn't matter anyway because you can't prove that a man has one or is different from an animal in that regard. So as far as proof to the heathen, we will never have it.

Hey wonk, I know you don't believe this. When is the pre-born baby EVER NOT a human person. It doesn't metamorphose into a human. It starts out as a human at conception, even though it may only be a fertilized cell. And it ends up a human at birth. How is anyone to say differently and who has the right to final arbitration. As soon as that cell is something other than a human, you've opened up a can of worms. But again, it can be nothing more than a human, albeit in its earliest growth stages.

This is really a BS argument. No one can prove it is NOT human. Therefore, there is no foundation to the argument that it's not human. At any time! Only Nazi mentality (bigoted mentality) has attempted to define human life other than human.

229 posted on 02/28/2003 12:32:33 PM PST by ThomasMore ([1 Pet 3:15-16])
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