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Wolfowitz Contradicts Shinseki over Iraqi Occupation
STRATFOR ^ | Feb 28, 2003 | Staff

Posted on 02/28/2003 8:29:04 AM PST by Axion

Wolfowitz Contradicts Shinseki over Iraqi Occupation
Feb 28, 2003

Summary

U.S. Army Chief of Staff Erik Shinseki said Feb. 25 that hundreds of thousands of troops would be needed in Iraq following a war. However, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz contradicted that statement on Feb. 27, saying Shinseki's estimates were "wildly off the mark." When two important figures like this contradict each other, it always has strategic significance.

Analysis

An interesting fight has broken out over the U.S. Army chief of staff's contention that Iraq would be occupied by hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops following a war. Gen. Erik Shinseki made that statement Feb. 25 at a Congressional hearing, without any immediate contradictions. Then, at hearings on Feb. 27, Democrats began attacking Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on the question of the war's cost -- at which point Wolfowitz broke with Shinseki, saying that his estimate was "wildly off the mark" and that the actual number of occupation forces would be closer to 100,000 troops.

The debate over the cost of the war is not particularly interesting. The Democrats know perfectly well that the cost of the war depends on how long the war lasts, how hard the fighting is and so on. Since no one knows that, a definitive answer is impossible. At the same time, the Bush administration has run the numbers along several contingencies and know more than officials want to tell Congress. Both sides are playing dumber than they are. It is wearying, but not important.

A split within the Defense Department on the scope of the occupation, however, is important. Shinseki is a careful man: He did not become chief of staff of the Army by casually throwing numbers around Congressional hearings, nor was his statement, widely circulated, immediately repudiated by civilian defense officials. From the evidence, it is clear to us that Shinseki was expressing defense policy as he knew it -- and the Army chief of staff, charged with personnel planning, certainly would have to be in the loop on a long-term deployment issue of that magnitude.

That make Wolfowitz's statement hard to fathom. Wolfowitz is also a careful man who knows these things will come back to bite him. Even under pressure from Congressmen looking to score points, Wolfowitz is not one to leave the Army chief of staff looking like a liar or fool, nor is he likely simply to buckle under hard questioning. Nevertheless, at the end of the day, the Army plan and the plan of the Office of the Secretary of Defense seem to be off by a couple of hundred thousand troops -- a large part of the U.S. Army.

We suspect that the explanation for this mismatch lies in the definition of the term "occupying forces." Strictly speaking, occupying force are those charged with maintaining order and providing services in an occupied country. Troops in Kuwait, for example, are not occupying forces. They are based in Kuwait, but their mission is outside of the country; so, there can be troops occupying Iraq and troops based in Iraq and the missions are completely different.

If the Stratfor theory on the long-term U.S. strategy in Iraq is correct, U.S. troops will have two roles to play there. There will be an occupation force charged with managing Iraq's internal security and other issues. There also will be other troops based in Iraq -- not reporting to the occupation commander, but reporting to a war-fighting commander whose primary responsibility will be for operations outside of Iraq.

From Shinseki's point of view, looking at the aggregate numbers, the part of the U.S. Army that he will have to carve out of his manpower pool will run to the hundreds of thousands, and they will be eating their meals in Iraq. From a technical point of view, calling them occupying forces is "wildly inaccurate" because only a hundred thousand will be busy occupying the country while the rest will have other missions. From Wolfowitz's point of view as a strategic planner, it is that force that represents the striking power.

None of this is, of course, as innocent as it appears. Wolfowitz -- and President George W. Bush -- simply don't want to lay the long-term cards on the table at this time. They would rather be accused of attacking Iraq without reason than being viewed as being engaged in a long-term, well-thought-out campaign against other countries in the region. They certainly don't want to express the strategy during a cat fight with congressional Democrats.

All of this points at a core problem. The Bush administration's desire to make Iraq appear a stand-alone operation, without any strategic purpose behind getting rid of a very bad man, is highly vulnerable to attack from many directions. It's only virtue is that it keeps the administration from getting involved in complex questions that can complicate the war. It also makes officials look -- at one and the same time -- simplistic, devious and incompetent. When the deputy secretary of defense and the chief of staff of the Army cannot, within 48 hours of each other, provide Congress with consistent information -- and Wolfowitz must cover the strategy by making Shinseki look like he doesn't know what he is doing -- the situation is getting out of hand.

Once the war is concluded, if it is concluded well, these contradictions will be forgotten and the next strategic steps will unfold -- or so the administration's theory goes. That may be correct, and indeed, much of this is simply Washington chatter, of no consequence outside of Washington. Nevertheless, the intense strains of unarticulated strategic plans are showing.


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To: SLB; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper; Doctor Raoul; Fred Mertz; shezza
He doesn't know a heavy force from a hole in the ground.

Too many "shazzam" briefings.

I'll be glad when he's gone.

41 posted on 02/28/2003 6:07:12 PM PST by sauropod (Excellence in Shameless Self Promotion)
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To: Axion
See: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ab3772e1f05.htm
Who is this guy?
42 posted on 02/28/2003 7:38:08 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg; sauropod; Fred Mertz
If you think Shinseki rose rapidly just watch B.B. Bell. Two years ago he was a Major Generl Commanding the Armor Center, usually a dead end job. Now he is a General in Europe.

Next stop? My guess - Chairman of the Joint Chiefs!
43 posted on 02/28/2003 9:04:09 PM PST by SLB
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To: SLB
BB Bell served at the CFR. 'nuf said.
44 posted on 03/01/2003 8:46:32 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: sauropod; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper; Doctor Raoul; Fred Mertz; shezza; leadpenny; harpseal; ...
The last paragraph of this article:
Once the war is concluded, if it is concluded well, these contradictions will be forgotten and the next strategic steps will unfold -- or so the administration's theory goes. That may be correct, and indeed, much of this is simply Washington chatter, of no consequence outside of Washington. Nevertheless, the intense strains of unarticulated strategic plans are showing.

Seems to be coming true even before the war is concluded. I know many don't feel Shinseki has the depth of experience, but his words seem to be holding true even before we are there as an occupation force. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are NOT generals, they are civilian leaders who have minimal experience in the tactical planning required for an operation such as is being carried out in the sands of Iraq.

45 posted on 03/30/2003 6:36:00 AM PST by SLB
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To: SLB
Yep.
46 posted on 03/30/2003 6:47:22 AM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: SLB
I disagree. Once Baghdad falls, i think you will be amazed how quickly the Iraqis turn against the former regime.

The reason the Iraqis haven't come out yet to support the Allies is both predictable and prudent. If the Allies leave before Saddam falls, those Iraqis (like the teenage girl who was hanged for waving to troops) will be tortured and killed. Once Basra/Nasariya/etc falls, watch what happens!

I think things will settle down quickly once we get rid of Saddam... the Iraqis will turn their true tormentors...

47 posted on 03/30/2003 6:57:05 AM PST by chilepepper (Gnocchi Seuton!)
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To: chilepepper
Hate to break the news to you, but I am afraid this will be a long and protracted action. I notice the administration is no longer talking about the Iraqis suffering from "shock and awe" instead the adiminstration is shocked into the cold hard reality of war being an awesome undertaking.
48 posted on 03/30/2003 7:06:48 AM PST by SLB
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To: u-89
So far you seem to be the only one that understood that. Odd that the Saudis, Syria, Iran, North Korea, etc. got the message long ago.
49 posted on 03/30/2003 7:12:04 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: SLB
Nah, it'll all be over in a month, a bit of mop-up perhaps afterwards.

This weekend was the clue. Nassyria is about to fall to the Allies and Najaf will fall soon after. Then Basra, then Baghdad with the push starting probably in a couple of weeks.

The fall of Nassyria is the real breaking point. Its fall (which is nearly complete if you check carefully) is going to really demoralize the ragheads...

50 posted on 03/30/2003 3:21:05 PM PST by chilepepper (Gnocchi Seuton!)
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To: chilepepper

Bump.


51 posted on 01/06/2006 8:14:41 PM PST by dak
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To: dak
the key to the middle east
52 posted on 01/07/2006 7:31:34 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: servantoftheservant

In retrospect, perhaps the general was NOT an imbecile. Shame on you, I hope you are man enough to admit you were wrong.


53 posted on 03/22/2006 6:51:36 PM PST by henryparsons
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To: henryparsons

And exactly who do you think you are, coming on here with your first post trashing somebody else's post?


54 posted on 03/22/2006 6:54:05 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: Howlin

Establishing Credentials ? In all of Wolfowitz's off the mark musings surely they can't all be blamed on myopic advisers.


55 posted on 09/01/2006 6:34:12 AM PDT by JJCC (No DEFCON3 in Fulda Gap October 1962)
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