[AnalogReigns]

Murder (personally killing someone) and warfare (when nations fight with nations) are two different things....recognized from antiquity. Deeply engrained middle eastern customs of revenge(meaning it would be the life duty of a surviving child to wreak havoc on an enemy nation)--combined with the incredibly degenerate state of the Canaanites in those days made their annhilation required by God. God as the giver of life....and death, has the absolute right to determine when and where people die--we, on our, own don't.

There is no inconsistancy there--any more than the killing of innocent life (abortion) is murder, while the killing of the guilty (capitol punishment)-- duly convicted in a court of law, is not murder, but justice.

[steve-b]

Murder (personally killing someone) and warfare (when nations fight with nations) are two different things....recognized from antiquity.

The distinction requires that the warfare meet the standards of Just War doctrine. Otherwise, you are forced to accept ludicrous positions, such as the notion the 9/11 Massacre was not a murderous act (Osama & Co. certainly consider themselves to be at war with Western Civilization in general and the US in particular).

Obviously, conquering and killing a people simply to take their land does not meet that standard.

[nmh]

"There is no inconsistancy there--any more than the killing of innocent life (abortion) is murder, while the killing of the guilty (capitol punishment)-- duly convicted in a court of law, is not murder, but justice."

Agree and I can't for the life of me equate killing a baby that is innocent beyond any reasonable doubt with the punishment of one who IS guilty beyond a reasonable doubt as in capital punishment. Abortion and capital punishment are not equilivent. In fact they are extreme opposites.