[nickcarraway]

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[LiteKeeper]

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[muawiyah]

That's all very good, but the fact is "no fault" divorce became popular when folks discovered that all the "reasons", aka, "the family's dirty linen", need not be published for public review.

"No fault" let's people "save face".

[Servant of the Nine]

Beforehand, almost any man could rule his wife and settle disputes by physical force.

I can promise you that had my late father ever laid a hand on my 85 year old mother she would have killed him without a thought. There is a term for women who aren't willing to do that, "abused".

Most women of her generation and mine would no more accept being "coerced" than I would. If you are not ready to kill the person who tries to coerce you, you aren't human, just a future slave.

The simple fact that you brought this up as an example of the "good old days" though needing updating and "Spousal Equality" demonstrates that you have so little understanding of a real relationship that nothing you say is of value.

Lawyers made huge fees on divorces in the old days, now most divorces hardly pay enough to keep the lights on. I am sure you would just looooove to see at fault divorce return. You are just another cheap jack lawyer trolling for business.

So9

[Theophilus]

Marriage never fails, people fail. Then the people in authority (family, friends, church & magistrate) also fail to enforce the law. Marriage is the prime victim of the gods of tolerance. Tolerance is the flaming jet fuel flowing through the girders of our culture.

[FirstTomato]

The problem in our society is not divorce, but not enough people getting married. Not being married when pregnant, not respecting marriage in the first place, and the consequences to society of children without fathers in the home is the problem.

When people are in a marriage and want out, the consequences of staying can be more devestating on children, than if they separate.

In the last 50 years, we've had a cultural swing towards socialism in this society, where government and psychology have replaced religion in the lives of people. The lack of community bonding is one of the first steps in destroying a culture, and that is what has happened. In order to restore respect for marriage, a restoration of the benefits of religion is paramount in our society.

[TruthConquers]

So, what is the solution?

Can Christians make their own marriage agreements separate from the civil authorities?

[nightdriver]

"In contrast, the registered cohabitation that we still call marriage invokes the jurisdiction of government officers. They receive authority to manage the lives of both spouses and their children with legal force."

Of course if you are a subversive socialist, wanting to bring our country down, you will applaud this with every fiber of your being.

[DAnconia55]

Ridiculous. The #1 cause is the immoral practice of alimony.

[dpwiener]

Although cohabitation is handicapped in many ways, it unfortunately has one important advantage: ordinary cohabitation keeps government out of the home.

The only thing wrong with the above sentence is the word "unfortunately". Cohabitation does keep government out of the home, and that's a huge advantage over government-regulated marriages. If you want to get married in a religious ceremony, go ahead and do it; just don't register it with the government. Instead, create a cohabitation contract to handle the civil issues (property ownership, monetary arrangements, etc.). That way you aren't forced to accept the one-size-fits-all government-defined civil marriage contract.

My POSSLQand I have lived together, utilizing a cohabitation contract, for over 25 years now. It has worked out just fine, and we've successfully avoided government interference in our relationship.

[Bob J]

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