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China calls reports that it supplied NKorea with missile "groundless"
defense-aerospace.com ^ | 25 February, 2003 | AFP

Posted on 02/25/2003 9:22:44 AM PST by batter

BEIJING, Feb 25 (AFP) - 09:35 GMT - China on Tuesday dismissed as "groundless" reports that a missile fired by North Korea into the Sea of Japan was exported to the hermit regime from China.

"Regardless of whether they allude to or directly say these missiles are China's, made in China or made with Chinese technology, all such reports are extremely irresponsible and groundless," foreign ministry spokesman Kong Quan said.

"Everyone knows we have adopted very strict control measures on weapons of mass destruction, especially missiles, biological, chemical and nuclear weapons.

"Last September we promulgated a series of laws and regulations. We also have lists of items banned for export.

"So in this area, China is a very responsible country. Under these circumstances, we are firmly opposed to anyone spreading these groundless and irresponsible comments," Kong said.

The missile was fired Monday into international waters in the Sea of Japan, a South Korean defense ministry official.

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuo Fukuda added the test weapon appeared to be an anti-ship missile with a short range of 100 kilometres (60 miles).

Japanese media said the missile was likely to be a China-developed Silkworm.

Kong declined to confirm whether the missile had been fired, saying he had only seen reports, and refrained from saying whether China would criticize North Korea if it did fire the missile.

"If indeed this incident happened, since there is a nuclear problem on the Korean peninsula, we believe we should more than ever safeguard peace and stability on the Korean peninsula," he said.

"To safeguard peace and stability, all parties should exercise restraint and stay calm."

North Korea agreed to a moratorium on missile testing after it caused international alarm in 1998 when it test-fired a Taepodong ballistic missile that flew over northeastern Japan into the Pacific Ocean.

Kong also clarified China's position that it still supports the North Korean nuclear issue being resolved in a bilateral forum, rather than a multilateral setting as Washington wants.

"The Chinese side thinks both parties should conduct equal dialogue as the first step to resolving this problem," he said.

Washington wants the nuclear crisis over the North's reactivating its nuclear activities to be resolved in a multilateral forum, saying North Korea was posing a threat to regional and international peace.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; chinastuff; northkorea; prc; proliferation
China's denials are credible...right?
Found via ChiCom Watch.
1 posted on 02/25/2003 9:22:45 AM PST by batter
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To: maui_hawaii; Tailgunner Joe; tallhappy; Enemy Of The State; Stand Watch Listen; *china_stuff
Same old song and dance bump.
2 posted on 02/25/2003 9:24:12 AM PST by batter (Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil)
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To: soccer8
Non-denial denial bump
3 posted on 02/25/2003 9:25:58 AM PST by witnesstothefall
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To: soccer8
"...all such reports are extremely irresponsible and groundless">

Ah,but are they false? Reminds me of Clinton's "there is no evidence that...." (fill in the blanks).

4 posted on 02/25/2003 9:32:09 AM PST by Salvey
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To: soccer8
yeah, Same 'ol sh!t.

Hell, the still deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre. What does anyone expect?

5 posted on 02/25/2003 9:45:27 AM PST by Enemy Of The State (To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.)
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To: soccer8
Maybe they did and maybe they didn't. Their secretive way of doing business in the world leaves them open to all kinds of doubts. Also, their apparent central control is a sham, a facade. Business in China is run by families and they operate autonomously, separate from government control for the most part. Communist control is mainly local, and social, interested in business only as far as final bottom line production is concerned.
6 posted on 02/25/2003 9:50:00 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: soccer8
I haven't seen anything indicating this wasn't a Styx, which is Russian, not Chinese, supplied. They're probably telling the truth.
7 posted on 02/25/2003 10:46:36 AM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
When you look at the countries that N. Korea gets items. The countries are Egypt, Syria, and Pakistan. These countries get their items from China. It is not a direct transfer.
8 posted on 02/25/2003 11:07:15 AM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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To: bmwcyle
What on earth are you talking about?

You've got it totally bass-ackwards. Egypt, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, etc. get items from NORTH KOREA, not the other way around.

North Korea got it's stuff from the Soviets, or the Chinese DIRECTLY. And the rest are indigenously made knockoffs of Soviet or Chinese gear.

The North Koreans have two types of land-based anti-ship cruise missles; the Soviet "Samlet" (which is basically a land-launched version of the Russian "Styx") and a few imported combined with some homemade Chinese HY-1s which are themselves Chinese knockoffs of the Styx.

What few articles give details about the missles indicate they were likely Samlets...basically, a Styx.

These missles are so amazingly old that CUBA had batteries of these DURING THE CUBAN MISSLE crisis.
9 posted on 02/25/2003 11:27:51 AM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
The shipments have been going both direction. China has been shipping to them all.
10 posted on 02/25/2003 11:45:18 AM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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To: John H K; All
Past history is also quite indicative that there is a high likelyhood the PRC played a hand in it:

North Korean nuclear missile supplies: made in China
Proliferation Policies - USCC
CHINA OPENS PANDORA'S NUCLEAR BOX
Proliferation and Chinese Relations with Terrorist-Sponsoring States - Chapter in USCC report to congress

The cooperation list goes on. The PRC continues to deny its proliferation, most have learned to ignore their denials as their actions speak differently.

11 posted on 02/25/2003 12:33:42 PM PST by batter
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BFL
12 posted on 02/25/2003 3:07:27 PM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: soccer8; John H K
The PRC continues to deny its proliferation, most have learned to ignore their denials as their actions speak differently.

Most have. But not Johnny Hong Kong.

13 posted on 02/25/2003 8:13:14 PM PST by WarSlut (It's the dictator, stupid)
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To: soccer8
same song and dance bump back to you.

Exactly. Any time Chinese spokespersons deny then use the words "always..." or "groundless" (or variants thereof) start suspecting the BS to flow.

14 posted on 02/25/2003 9:49:20 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: John H K
They're probably telling the truth.

Oh yeah? Really?

Its either Russian or Chinese which puts China as suspect #1 or #2...

15 posted on 02/25/2003 9:51:52 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: John H K
North Korea tested a cruise missile By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES

North Korea flight-tested a new long-range cruise missile Monday, not a short-range, 1950s-era weapon as first reported, U.S. intelligence officials said yesterday. Top Stories • Free Iraq is Mideast model • High court rules pro-life protests a lawful right • Children of Maine Guard unit taunted by teachers • Engineers feared shuttle disaster • Translating for Yao a big-time assignment • It keeps snowing, and snowing ... • Old Man Winter wears out his welcome • Suspicious minds

Intelligence data from the test contradicted statements by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who told reporters Tuesday that the test was a "fairly innocuous" firing of an old missile. "It appears to be a Silkworm variant that they [North Koreans] modified to get a longer range," said one U.S. official, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Initial reports said the missile test, which occurred hours before South Korea's new president, Roh Moo-hyun, was inaugurated in Seoul, involved a short-range Russian Styx anti-ship missile with a range of about 50 miles. Further analysis of intelligence data collected on the flight test sharply changed the estimate of the missile's capability, and thus its importance in the international community's current standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program. The Washington Times first disclosed the existence of the new North Korean cruise missile in 1997, when it was test fired for the first time. The missile was identified as a long-range variant of China's HY-2 Silkworm missile and dubbed the AG-1 by the Pentagon. The first test launch was May 23, 1997, from a military base at the Angol army barracks in northeastern North Korea.

Full Piece Click Here

It looks like China to me.

16 posted on 02/27/2003 12:04:06 PM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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