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"The reason this guy had to rig his own, is because he couldn't buy one on the market, because they are illegal and are considered Man Traps... even if you put up warning signs."

I don't dispute the traps being illegal as our various government agencies have passed many laws designed at protecting the criminal and the victim can just suck wind.

The laws vary from state to state as to what type of force, how much force, what direction the piece of human debris was headed when the victim used force etc. etc.

Governments tend to be more trouble then they are worth. They tell us they only LEOs may use force but they know fully well that LEOs are a reactive solution at best and only in rare occasions can LEOs be pro-active in preventing crime. Then the same pieces of communist s#$% tell us we cannot protect ourselves.

Time has long passed when we should have used our 2nd Amendment rights to bring our government under control and now I believe it is too late. We have lost the protection of our constitution and the government is free to impose any unconstitutional law it can sneak past the less than supreme (political) court.

Your rant against all government not withstanding, the building of man traps is illegal, it is hardly something I think is a prosecution of the victim and protection of the criminal. You made the case you view this otherwise, I don't.

I also don't find governments more trouble than they are worth. While I hate dealing with them, I recognize anarchy is far far far worse.

This guy built a trap and intentionally set it up to mame or kill a human, that is illegal in all 50 states. I have no argument that the criminal should not have been trying to break into the bar... but that doesn't remove culpability of the bar owner for his own violations. As I said the bar owners is lucky he's only getting off with a 75k payoff... by all rights he should be facing felonly charges for creating a man trap, and since the person who the trap snared did die, homicide charges as well. He should be counting his blessings....

There is a bar owner in RI this week who likely did NOTHING wrong at all, that will likely end up going to jail because some punk band just did whatever the hell they wanted. The bar owner who set this man trap is not a victim... he made his own bed.