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Gods, Generals and the War
TownHall.com ^ | 2/25/03 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 02/24/2003 10:17:35 PM PST by kattracks

The only reason that the new Civil War epic "Gods and Generals" hasn't prompted outraged protests is because so few people are seeing it that a boycott would be pointless. The four-hour-long box-office flop renders such a nuanced view of the warriors of the Confederacy that it is ripe for charges of bigotry.

It's a shame that the movie isn't more "controversial." Then more people might be exposed to its profound meditation on war. Confederate leaders were utterly wrong, but "Gods and Generals" shows that they were idealistic men all the same. In so doing, it reminds us of timeless martial virtues that are often forgotten in our secularized and post-heroic culture, even as the U.S. military prepares for war in Iraq.

Soldiers fight because they are patriots, and patriotism starts with a devotion to home. "Gods and Generals" opens with a passage from George Eliot: "A human life, I think, should be well rooted in some spot of native land, where it may get the love of tender kinship." Southern warriors were as patriotic as Northerners, but their patriotism was more local. "I love the Union," Stonewall Jackson says, "but I love Virginia more."

During the 1990s, global capitalism was supposed to wash away national sovereignty, and the atavistic hangover of patriotism. The spirit of the era was: "We're all citizens of the world now." When advocates of missile defense wanted to defend the "homeland," they were taken to be hopelessly backward.

Now everyone talks of "homeland defense." Sept. 11 brought to the fore the military's most basic role -- defending native soil and the lives of our countrymen. Suddenly, the flag, that most powerful symbol of devotion to homeland ("Gods and Generals" is soaked with flags), was everywhere, from the East Village to cable TV broadcasts.

The first word in the title of "Gods and Generals" is a cue to its emphasis on religion. Men cannot die and kill unless they are informed by something infinitely higher than themselves, whether it's Stonewall Jackson's austere religiosity or Union Col. Joshua Chamberlain's determination to help bring God's justice to Earth. If an army marches on its stomach, it also marches on its faith -- even today. As Rod Dreher reports in the latest National Review, the U.S. military depends crucially on the comfort and inspiration of its chaplain corps.

Soldiers are also devoted to honor, to their duty to their comrades and their reputation for bravery. Honor suffered in the 20th century. World War I made it seem foolish, and irony and postmodernism steadily eroded it. Falstaff carried the day: "What is honor? A word. What is that word honor? Air. ... Who hath it? He that died o' Wednesday."

The men of "Gods and Generals" know, in contrast, that honor lifts us beyond ourselves, and the military realizes that now, whether it's Army Rangers fighting for their fallen comrades in Mogadishu or pilots going to extreme lengths to avoid hitting civilians in Afghanistan.

A final note on the film: It is a paean to the martial vigor of the South that still animates the U.S. military. American combat units are dominated by a NASCAR culture -- largely Southern and lower middle class. Major combat bases are almost all in the South, and are still named after Southern generals (Fort Bragg, Fort Hood).

Southern soldiers were fearsome, but the industrial might of the North wore them down. Contemporary America combines the technological prowess and (importantly) egalitarian vision of human rights of the North with the fighting spirit of the South, making a military engine that is irresistible, fierce and moral.

We might ask now, when there seems to be so few heroes, where are the men who love their home more than their lives, who fear God, who follow the dictates of honor like the giants of the past? They walk among us still. Too "sophisticated" to believe in old-fashioned heroism, we just don't allow ourselves to see them.

Rich Lowry is editor of National Review, a TownHall.com member group.

©2003 King Features Syndicate

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1 posted on 02/24/2003 10:17:35 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
A final note on the film: It is a paean to the martial vigor of the South that still animates the U.S. military. American combat units are dominated by a NASCAR culture -- largely Southern and lower middle class. Major combat bases are almost all in the South, and are still named after Southern generals (Fort Bragg, Fort Hood).

I've been waiting for a while for the NAACP to finally notice all of the military bases named after Confederate Generals; I think the only thing that has prevented it so far is that, for the AVERAGE person who has spent no time studying the Civil War, such as your typical NAACP leader, John Bell Hood, Braxton Bragg, etc. are obscure figures they've never heard of before.

When one of them finally does realize it...whoo boy...if you thought they went nuts over the South Carolina flag...

2 posted on 02/24/2003 10:28:03 PM PST by John H K
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To: kattracks
My husband and I saw this movie yesterday. We absolutely loved it. The casting was terrific. Martin Sheen played the role of General Lee in the film Gettysberg and I couldn't watch it. That guy makes me nauseous. Robert DuVal plays Lee in Gods and Generals and does a great job. If you like U.S. history, I definitely recommend this film.
3 posted on 02/24/2003 10:28:59 PM PST by adrian
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To: kattracks
Confederate leaders were utterly wrong, but

Fighting against unreasonable tariffs and supporting the Constitution is utterly wrong?

You can tell where I lost interest.......

4 posted on 02/24/2003 10:37:27 PM PST by Don W (Lead, follow, or get outta the way!)
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To: John H K
When one of them finally does realize it...whoo boy...if you thought they went nuts over the South Carolina flag...

I think you meant the Georgia flag. Of course the South Carolina flag looks like it could be for the Islamic Republic of South Carolina.

South Carlolina

Georgia


5 posted on 02/24/2003 10:39:40 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (This space left intentionally blank.)
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To: kattracks
The only trouble with G&G was that like most other Civil War movies it was told from the perspective of the Generals not much from the grunts.

Why did the Confederate soldiers fight and die so valiantly when they always seemed barefoot and hungry. The conventional wisdom is that they fought because the Yankees were invading their country but as most Confederates considered their home states to be their country why did Texans fight so hard in Virginia?

And Billy Yank fought in territory vastly different than their home states for what? Surely not for emancipation of a people that they hardly had any contact with and considered themselves superior to.

To my mind the best Civil War tale was Glory, at least the troops depicted had a clear reason to fight. When I feel that things are getting too tough to handle and I need a shot of spine stiffening I watch Glory.

6 posted on 02/24/2003 10:51:39 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
why did Texans fight so hard in Virginia?
Because they were from Virginia? Wasn't all that long from the admission of Texas into the Union until the start of the Civil War, was it?

7 posted on 02/24/2003 11:35:44 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: kattracks
Bump for 'Gods and Generals'. . .seems even those who do not think they will like it; come away impressed and inspired by this movie.
8 posted on 02/24/2003 11:43:11 PM PST by cricket
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Because they were from Virginia?

John Bell Hood's Brigade was made up of Texans from Texas.

Even General Lee didn't fight for the Confederacy (at least at first) as he considered Virginia to be "his country".

This fierce loyalty to one's state is why it was called the Confederacy and not the "Southern Union".

OBTW: Many in Texas did not want to secede including Gov. Sam Houston.

9 posted on 02/25/2003 12:01:52 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: John H K
"...Braxton Bragg..."

Somehow, I don't think too many Southerners would object if the NAACP wanted to change the name of that fort.

10 posted on 02/25/2003 12:11:32 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
"...Southern soldiers were fearsome, but the industrial might of the North wore them down..."

Howdy, Bona-bud! I'll watch the movie when it makes HBO or Showtime. I always liked Martin Duvals' work.

It's the lack of an Industrial Base that will render the Petro-Countries in Wog-Land in the Middle-East helpless in any war. If ya can't sustain a war, ya can't win!

Stay well, old Robert.........FRegards

11 posted on 02/25/2003 1:33:18 AM PST by gonzo (Sometimes, your advantage IS being crazier than a shit-house rat!)
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To: adrian
Martin Sheen played the role of General Lee in the film Gettysberg and I couldn't watch it.

Because of his politics or his acting? His politics make me sick, but I have to say the man is a good actor. I thought he did a very credible jop portraying the honor, dignity, and humanity of General Lee in the film "Gettysburg".

13 posted on 02/25/2003 5:04:54 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Cagey
jop=job ...of course. (Before I get shot at Little Round Top)
14 posted on 02/25/2003 5:06:32 AM PST by Cagey
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To: DLeaberry
Not only are Lowry and his fellow sissy-boys at NR ... all punks, they could climb Mount Everest and not be tall enough to kiss the ass of the lowliest private in the Army of Northern Virginia!

Well said BUMP!!

15 posted on 02/25/2003 10:48:05 AM PST by GirlNextDoor
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To: gonzo
It's much nicer to watch these movies at home, anyway. That's because theatres seriously s*ck! But even better is to swipe the movie off the web, hehe. It won't be long before more and more people are doing this with movies, just as they now do with music. And all I can say is, "Hallelujah!"

The rag-heads will crash and burn. No doubt about it. One by one, they're going down.

Always good to hear from you, Old Squire. ;-)

17 posted on 02/25/2003 11:02:55 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte; GOPcapitalist; Grand Old Partisan; TxBec
I read through comments made by FReepers to this and other threads on this great movie and wonder how many really have a worldview like that of Jackson. How many concentrate only on the current issues and do not have the depth or experiences to evaluate this film for what it truly is. Where are the true Christian values? I see talk of pulling the movie off of the web with those making these comments considering themselves to have high moral values.

I am coming to the conclusion that many Christians lack the spiritual and theological maturity to understand the consistency and orthodoxy of Jackson's worldview. They will seek to evaluate this man through the twenty-first century grid of pop-Christianity.

Gods and Generals presents an orthodox, no-holds-barred verrsion of Christianity. Not because the film was designed as a tool of evangelism, but because the film is faithful and true to the life of a soldier who was first and foremost an obedient evangelist for Jesus Christ.

The movie is not a "nice" film, but Christianity is not always "nice." It's not nice when a general is called to execute his own soldiers for desertion. It is not nice, but it is biblical, as Jackson explains with tremendous clarity and precision. It is not nice to pick up the sword and go to battle, but when one is defending one's homeland, it is mandatory.

The truth is that Jackson was one of the most rigorously consistent and principled leaders in American military history. He represents the type of man we rarely see any more: focused under pressure, fearless in the face of death, ferocious in battle, but singularly tender in home life and wedded bliss.

We do not have any Jackson's in the nation today. Our current leaders without exception have a long way to go to fill the shoes of Jackson and Lee. If they were the principled leaders they claim to be we would not kill the inocent unborn children in the womb.
18 posted on 03/01/2003 6:36:43 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson
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To: adrian
I enjoyed the film as well.

I thought 'Gettysburg' was a little more focused and probably was a better film, but I still cant wait for the last installment 'The Last Full Measure' (plus the 6 HOUR DVD version of 'Gods and Generals!)

19 posted on 03/01/2003 6:41:26 AM PST by ewing
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To: Stonewall Jackson
"I see talk of pulling the movie off of the web with those making these comments considering themselves to have high moral values."

Under direct orders from General Lee, Jeb Stuart repeatedly confiscated civilian property. This included their food, their horses, their clothes, their shoes, in addition to many other things. Both Lee and Jackson accepted these stolen goods, distributed them to their men and sent Stuart out to get more.

The film industry is my enemy. I have declared war on them. I therefore deny them my dollar and confiscate their work product whenever possible.

20 posted on 03/01/2003 12:05:22 PM PST by Bonaparte
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