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Muslim Extremists seeking to foster One Islamic World
The Hill ^ | February 24, 2003 | David Keene

Posted on 02/24/2003 8:53:20 AM PST by Seeking the truth

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To: babaloo999
Of course, that's the same as saying " as long as there are people on earth, there will be war". So, it's a little unfair to the muslims, but I really don't care.
41 posted on 02/24/2003 12:30:21 PM PST by babaloo999
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To: Seeking the truth
An interesting read which presupposes that the Wahhabis' do not hold the correct interpretation of the Koran and other Muslim sacred writings.
Could the problem be the Muslim holy book and holy writings?
Isn't it curious that the only 'peaceful' (in the Western sense) Muslims are the secular Muslims?
42 posted on 02/24/2003 1:13:14 PM PST by MoGalahad
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To: mabelkitty
>>>>>And if that is true, then they should be helping the FBI in capturing/exposing these people.

They can't. Many that I know have family in the Mid East. They (the Mid East) doesn't allow the entire family to leave. If they turn in or turn on other Muslims, their family is punished.
43 posted on 02/24/2003 1:35:10 PM PST by Calpernia
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To: snerkel
What I do find offensive are the words of those who ignorantly stereotype all people in a general area or religious belief system as all believing the same thing or on the same "mission".
Just thought I'd share my $.02 :)

Thanks for sharing.

My own $.02 sez that there is nothing really extreme about this headline. I believe it to be the basic Koran teaching that muslim Extremists and non extremists are seeking to foster One Islamic World. The

44 posted on 02/24/2003 2:17:15 PM PST by evad (It IS a Crusade)
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To: Seeking the truth
A rabidly violent Tower of Babel.
45 posted on 02/24/2003 2:17:56 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Calpernia
And they would be found out how?

Give me a break! The FBI has an anonymous tip line, and also has an online form to fill out to assist in the capture of these criminals.

By hiding and not assisting in the capture, they are guilty by association and should be considered combatants of this country.

Our country was founded by people who risked their lives and families for freedom - if these folks won't do the same, then they aren't Americans.
46 posted on 02/24/2003 2:20:29 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: The Lake City Gar
I guess I can start calling the "Kill ALL Muslims", "The only Muslim is a DEAD Muslim" and "Nuke Mecca Crowd" America Haters.

YES..you can....and Yes, they are.

47 posted on 02/24/2003 2:21:50 PM PST by evad (It IS a Crusade)
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To: mabelkitty
Some are brave enough to come forward...hence Buffalo, NY.

But the women are suppressed, controlled, and even isolated within our own culture. The men, some feel they are obligated, some try to change minds on their own, some think the money their family gets after is a good deal.

Some don't trust our government.

The online tips form submit. I did get one suppressed wife to send in a tip. She never heard anything back from the gov. It doesn't seem the tip was ever followed up on either.

I myself have sent in tips. Never heard a thing back. Doesn't seem my tip was followed up on either.

So, does the online tip work even???
48 posted on 02/24/2003 2:43:36 PM PST by Calpernia
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To: evad
I believe it to be the basic Koran teaching that muslim Extremists and non extremists are seeking to foster One Islamic World.

What was the last thing Christ said to the Apostles?
49 posted on 02/24/2003 2:46:52 PM PST by snerkel (Let us run with patient endurance and steady and active persistence the appointed course of the race)
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To: evad
P.S. When I re-read my response to you, I felt that it appeared as though I was attempting to change the subject or deflect from your remarks, I was not. Sorry if it came across that way.
50 posted on 02/24/2003 2:48:50 PM PST by snerkel (Let us run with patient endurance and steady and active persistence the appointed course of the race)
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To: carvedwood

Muslims pray with Washington Monument in rear.

51 posted on 02/24/2003 2:55:25 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Seeking the truth
BUMP
52 posted on 02/24/2003 3:16:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW; All
I must say, the American people have absolutely NO idea
what they are up against.

I am currently slogging through a book titled,
"The Neglected Duty, The creed of Sadats Assassins and
Islamic Resurgence in the Middle East."
By Johannes J.G. Jansen, University Teacher in the Department of Arabic, Persian, and Turkish at Leiden University, Holland.

The book examines and contains a complete translation of the
Al-Faridah Al-Gha'ibah. Sort of a statement of purpose left Behind by the extremeists who murdered Sadat.

From the forward.

"Drawing upon classical Muslim ideas and experiences of the recent past, the document reaches the radical conclusion that, if necessary, force can be used in the struggle for a pure Islamic state. It advocates the overthrow of existing governments, and calls upon Muslims to take up arms in fulfillment of this religious duty."

Keep in mind that this happened in the early 80s, nearly
twenty years ago. The views expressed herein are the views
of Bin Ladin, and the Taliban, and the other jihadist groups
TODAY.

It is plain that these people see war, actual war as a religious obligation and will not let anything or anyone
stand in their way.

To try and reason , to try and be concilliatory, are the actions of fools, whose very existance is an afront, and
whose every action impedes the founding of the true Islamic state, they are to be lied to and slaughtered in the creation of that future Islamic state.

I'm not very deep into it yet, the distain they have for other muslims that do not share their view does not bode well for them, in a future Islamic state. As we have seen
in Afganistan,Iran, and any place Islam has gained a foot hold.

Eagles UP.
Breachers to the front.
53 posted on 02/24/2003 3:48:10 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: tet68
thanks for that post, and unless people wake up about Islam we are in deep trouble.....
54 posted on 02/24/2003 3:56:19 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: tet68
bttt
55 posted on 02/24/2003 4:04:25 PM PST by Seeking the truth (I'm going on the FRN Cruise - How about you? - Details at www.Freerepublic.net)
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To: Seeking the truth
bttt
56 posted on 02/24/2003 4:54:34 PM PST by Seeking the truth (I'm going on the FRN Cruise - How about you? - Details at www.Freerepublic.net)
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To: snerkel
Sorry if it came across that way.

Not at all.

I'm not sure what you're looking for in your question but I'll have to tell you up front that I am not a student of the Bible. However, if I were I would say that it depends on whether you take the writings of Matthew and Mark, Luke or John as your source. And I assume you mean speaking to the Apostles as a group.

Shall I go further?

57 posted on 02/24/2003 5:46:34 PM PST by evad (It IS a Crusade)
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To: Seeking the truth
Daniel Pipes is great!
58 posted on 02/24/2003 6:05:38 PM PST by Salem (Inveniemus viam aut faciemus. - we find the road or we make it.)
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To: Seeking the truth
G-d bless David Keene and Frank Gaffney...prison and eternal damnation to the traitorous Wahabbist demon Grover Norquist.
59 posted on 02/24/2003 9:00:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Muslims pray with Washington Monument in rear.

Those mass butt-sniffings are something else, aren't they?

60 posted on 02/24/2003 11:25:43 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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