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New church shocker: Diocese ignoring abuse allegations
The Tribune Democrat ^ | February 23, 2003 | SUSAN EVANS

Posted on 02/23/2003 7:14:05 PM PST by Polycarp

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To: ultima ratio
The other way around? Of the traitors, one was twelve?


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21 posted on 02/23/2003 8:09:07 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (this tag line vetted by the TIA program)
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To: Polycarp
The solution is to call the police.

These jerks are not spiritual leaders -- they're a disgrace in the eyes of God and man. Common criminals at best, monsters in every sense of the word. Treat them with the same respect given to any other street rapist.

Call for the idiot criminals who cover and protect them to be taken out of positions of leadership.

Doctors who develop Parkinson's are not allowed to do surgery. Pilots who go blind are not allowed to fly, and politicians convicted of selling military secrets can't serve in congress. Priest who become evil cannot function in leadership positions in the church. It's time for Catholics to grow up. To forgive is not the same as "to accept."

It accuses Adamec and former Bishop James J. Hogan of covering up sexual abuse by priests, transferring offending priests from church to church and lying to area congregations.

22 posted on 02/23/2003 8:20:33 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Polycarp; All
The solution is to call the police.

These jerks are not spiritual leaders -- they're a disgrace in the eyes of God and man. Common criminals at best, monsters in every sense of the word. Treat them with the same respect given to any other street rapist.

Call for the idiot criminals who cover and protect them to be taken out of positions of leadership.

Doctors who develop Parkinson's are not allowed to do surgery. Pilots who go blind are not allowed to fly, and politicians convicted of selling military secrets can't serve in congress. Priest who become evil cannot function in leadership positions in the church. It's time for Catholics to grow up. To forgive is not the same as "to accept."

It accuses Adamec and former Bishop James J. Hogan of covering up sexual abuse by priests, transferring offending priests from church to church and lying to area congregations.

23 posted on 02/23/2003 8:20:55 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
Doctors who develop Parkinson's are not allowed to do surgery. Pilots who go blind are not allowed to fly, and politicians convicted of selling military secrets can't serve in congress. Priest who become evil cannot function in leadership positions in the church. It's time for Catholics to grow up. To forgive is not the same as "to accept."

Excellent argument. Also applies to non-Roman churches but the main difference is that we do better at stopping them instead of transferring them repeatedly, something the bishops have a reputation of doing. The practice is so widespread it's hard to deny that it's anything other than an institutional practice.

Roman churches need to do the same in expelling unfit clergymen if they expect anyone to trust them at all, especially with their bachelor clergy.
24 posted on 02/23/2003 8:40:50 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Cicero
Among the curious items this search turned up is an article by Dr. Brian J. Kopp (of Buffalo fame) lambasting the bishop for allowing Governor Ridge to speak in a Catholic venue

I'm certain that Dr. Brian Kopp is not the same person as the infamous James Kopp, who did indeed confess to shooting the Buffalo abortionist Slepian.

You see, Dr. Brian Kopp is me, and I'm not in jail. Neither am I related to James Kopp.

However, I did write the Wanderer article you linked, and I personally got the series of investigative articles about the Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown in the Tribune Democrat newspaper initiated, of which the articles in this thread are just the latest installment.

I also developed the lead on one of the priests exposed in these articles for this reporter.

I can tell you from extensive first hand knowledge that Bishop Adamec is one of the most corrupt/wicked men in the US hierarchy.

Tune in tomorrow for the next segment of this series, should be on the front page once again in the morning, I'll post it then.

25 posted on 02/23/2003 8:48:11 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Desdemona
Why do they call it child abuse? It is not "children" but boys. These are homosexual attacks on boys by adult homosexual men.

When are they going to call it what it is?
26 posted on 02/23/2003 8:52:26 PM PST by JSteff (Use common sense and look at history first.)
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To: Antoninus; Siobhan
Is RCF in the loop on him?

We finally managed to get them "in the loop" in the last two weeks. Keep an eye on their site.

Adamec has to go.

Tomorrow's paper will supposedly outline the clearcut case of simony by which Adamec got his bishopric.

And yes, Adamec and Weakland are old buddies. Weakland retired to the Benedictine Abby at St. Vincent's in nearby Greensburg diocese.

27 posted on 02/23/2003 8:52:54 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: George W. Bush
until you jail the enablers, namely, those bishops

Believe me, nothing would make us happier here in this diocese. A small handful of us are working feverishly behind the scenes to expose the corruption and sexual predation here to the light of day.

This series of investigative reports is in part the culmination of our efforts.

28 posted on 02/23/2003 8:56:40 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: JSteff
When are they going to call it what it is?

I think I'd like to call it "A God-given opportunity to cleanse the American church of some of the worst bishops in its history"! :-)

29 posted on 02/23/2003 8:58:57 PM PST by Campion
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To: JSteff
These are homosexual attacks on boys by adult homosexual men.

We have repeatedly emphasized this with the paper running this series.

Unfortunately, they are just as PC as the rest of the mainstream media, and they don't want to run with this angle, though its the one we've forcefully emphasized from day one.

The problem with laity trying to clean up the church is that the only "weapon" we have left is a thousand pound secular news gorilla that prefers tearing down and destroying to carefully cutting out the rot.

Its a dangerous path to trod, and once the secular media smells Catholic blood, there's no way to pull them off the carcass.

30 posted on 02/23/2003 9:04:16 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Cicero
Bishop’s Statement concerning CIVIL LITIGATION vs. DIOCESE
Most Reverend Joseph V. Adamec
February 13, 2003
It is regrettable that sexual and physical abuse of minors has occurred and that there are individuals continuing to suffer as a result. It is deplorable that sexual abuse of minors has occurred at the hands of priests within the Roman Catholic Church.

This week, the Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown and its Bishops were served notice that they were named defendants in civil litigation in two separate legal proceedings. Prior to that, the plaintiffs and their attorney held a news media conference and informed the public of their intention to bring this legal action against the Church.

For the benefit of our faithful, religious, and clergy in their having to experience another day in court, as well as for that of the general public, it is incumbent upon me to respond. Otherwise, the perception left would not be accurate. This is especially necessary in light of the number of inaccuracies in the mass media reports, as well as in the legal complaints. The complaints accuse the Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown, along with former Diocesan Bishop Hogan and me, of not handling cases of alleged minor abuse by priests appropriately. I believe that each one of us did, given the facts and circumstances, properly handle such cases.

The assertions contained in the complaint have to do with allegations of sexual abuse of minors by two priests, the former Father Francis Luddy and Monsignor Francis McCaa, who were functioning in the Diocese at the time of the alleged abuse. The allegations of the complaints reference claimed abuse that occurred in 1976-78 with respect to former Father Luddy and 1980-85 with respect to Monsignor McCaa. Neither of these priests has served in parish ministry since 1985 with respect to Monsignor McCaa and 1987 with respect to former Father Luddy. The statute of limitation in civil law has long expired.

Here, I wish to repeat what I have said before. No one has come forward with any allegation of sexual abuse of a minor by a priest of this Diocese that would have occurred during the past decade and a half. Furthermore, no priest ordained within that period of time has been accused of inappropriate behavior in this regard.

It would appear that the filing of this legal action is an attempt to have the statute of limitations avoided and reinterpreted. Several mechanizations are used, including that of alleging that some sort of conspiracy exists within this Diocesan Church that allows and even promotes inappropriate behavior on the part of its priests in regard to minors. I deny and know of no such conspiracy; certainly, not within the Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown.

Bishop Hogan and I have both functioned individually, as the one entrusted with the overseeing of this Diocesan Church in his own particular time. Both of us have made decisions with the overall good of God’s people in mind. These decisions were based upon the best available data and professional advice available at those times. Current decisions are based upon the best available data and professional advice of today. As in other areas, this has changed over a period of time; and, not only for the Church but for society in general.

In 1987, we put into writing our diocesan policy of taking allegations against our clergy seriously, meeting with both the alleged victim and the alleged perpetrator, seeking professional evaluation, assisting those injured, and following the advice of the professional evaluators in regard to continuance or discontinuance of public ministry. In all this, the confidentiality, to which all parties have a right, was maintained. Of course, the parties themselves could decide otherwise.

As for reporting to civil authorities, at the time of the abuse as alleged in the present complaints, there was no obligation or law requiring clergy to do so. This was changed in 1995. Then, as now, those who feel victimized have the freedom to report the matter to proper authorities. Today, that is very much encouraged. And, clergy are now, since 1995, required to report in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

While legal requirements (both civil and canonical) play a great part in how a bishop responds to a situation, he is required to respond in a pastoral manner to the extent possible. This we have attempted to do in every case, within the framework of what is required of a bishop in shepherding his diocese.

It is my intention to follow the CHARTER adopted by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the NORMS approved by the Holy See. These become effective in March of this year. However, they have been a tremendous guidance to us bishops already and have bound us to stricter disciplinary actions than those to which we were bound decades ago. We are now assisted in this by an Allegation Review Board, which provides us with professional, objective advice relative to the credibility of any allegation received, regarding the sexual abuse of a minor by a member of the clergy.

Important for the proper understanding of situations such as these are several basic facts. No bishop has the authority to dismiss any individual from the priesthood simply by an administrative directive. Such dismissal is reserved to the Holy See or an ecclesiastical trial. Professional evaluators in the past often concluded that an offender could continue in limited ministry, one not associated with a parish.

Alleged victims come forward for a variety of reasons. Some wish to make their situation known simply so as to prevent similar molestations to happen to someone else. Others request assistance with their therapy. Very few make their accusations with the intent of asking for sums of money. The Diocese continues, as part of our pastoral policy, to assist those who feel harmed by the Church, even in situations where the allegations may not be substantiated. Assistance is generally in the form of payments that are made directly to the professional provider of therapy, in an effort to provide assistance to the alleged victim. Such assistance has been given or offered to most of the named plaintiffs. And, it continues to be given and offered.


There are a number of matters in the legal complaint that need clarifying. Among them are the following.

I did not become the Bishop of the Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown until the 20th of May, 1987. This Diocesan Church has not provided funds “to the parishes, as they deemed necessary” nor “appointed the trustees of the parishes.” There is no way that I or any of my staff can have “direct knowledge of the daily functioning of the various religious and recreation programs operating in each parish….” It is not a “part of a priest’s duties and in furtherance of cultivating a trusting relationship with children, that priests visited the childrens’ homes to meet with the children and their parents.”

It is not the policy of this Diocese, nor has it been, to assign priests who could be detrimental to children “to duties specifically involving minors,” as is stated in the complaint. As for listings in directories and continued support of certain priests, eliminating such is not always the prerogative of the Diocesan Bishop, given the Code of Canon Law. However, that, too, is changing as a result of the new NORMS, approved by the Holy See.

I have been accused of not complying with a court order to provide certain files. The fact of the matter is that the judge came to my office and did review those files, directing us to make copies of documents that he wished to take with him.

This statement is not intended to be a defense; but, rather, to serve as a clarification and as an assurance that the leadership of this Diocesan Church intends to protect minors from abuse by its clergy, employees, and volunteers. To this end, a training program called Protecting God’s Children has been in development for a number of years, before the recent clergy scandals broke out last year. The Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown has been a partner in this development through its membership in the National Catholic Risk Retention Group. The Diocese has had plans to put it into effect locally upon completion of its formulation. We are now in the final stages of putting Protecting God’s Children into place within the Diocese.

A Diocesan Bishop cannot regret deeply enough, nor apologize often enough, over the fact that some clergy took advantage of minors under their spiritual care in a most inappropriate way, a way that may have affected them for the rest of their lives. Nor can a Diocesan Bishop wish any more than we Bishops do today that we would have known what we now know about the treatment of offenders. And, a Diocesan Bishop cannot but thank God for the countless good and dedicated priests that we have serving his Church, not to mention the understanding faithful of that Church, who realize that it is composed of sinful individuals striving to become holy.

For my part, I pledge a continued effort of encouraging our clergy, religious, and faithful toward holiness as individuals and as this Diocesan Church. To this end, I ask all and anyone that has been hurt by our Church leadership to pray for us.
31 posted on 02/23/2003 9:15:06 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Canons 1369 and 1373 bump
32 posted on 02/24/2003 1:02:54 AM PST by Dajjal (Do you really think I should be excommunicated?)
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To: George W. Bush; All
And I agree with you...

Doctors who develop Parkinson's are not allowed to do surgery. Pilots who go blind are not allowed to fly, and politicians convicted of selling military secrets can't serve in congress. Priest who become evil cannot function in leadership positions in the church. It's time for Catholics to grow up. To forgive is not the same as "to accept."

Excellent argument. Also applies to non-Roman churches but the main difference is that we do better at stopping them instead of transferring them repeatedly, something the bishops have a reputation of doing. The practice is so widespread it's hard to deny that it's anything other than an institutional practice.

33 posted on 02/24/2003 3:16:17 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: George W. Bush; All
Thank you, and I also agree with you.

Doctors who develop Parkinson's are not allowed to do surgery. Pilots who go blind are not allowed to fly, and politicians convicted of selling military secrets can't serve in congress. Priest who become evil cannot function in leadership positions in the church. It's time for Catholics to grow up. To forgive is not the same as "to accept."

Excellent argument. Also applies to non-Roman churches but the main difference is that we do better at stopping them instead of transferring them repeatedly, something the bishops have a reputation of doing. The practice is so widespread it's hard to deny that it's anything other than an institutional practice.

34 posted on 02/24/2003 3:17:34 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Polycarp; All
The reason men rape children is that children are capable of repeated terror and horror. The men who need this terror from a child are evil.

What evil is greater than receiving joy comes from the misery and degradation of an innocent child?

We had a situation in Florida where a biker gang member raped a goat. When asked why he also slit the throat of the goat he explained that the goat wasn't struggling. Priest who go after children are the same. They want the pleasure of hurting and terrifying the innocent.

It's way past time for the Church to start understanding the victims of sinful individuals.

The Priest that serve evil are not "sinful individuals striving to become holy", they are evil striving to destroy the innocent and deliver their souls to hell. It's time for Catholics to grow up.

not to mention the understanding faithful of that Church, who realize that it is composed of sinful individuals striving to become holy.

35 posted on 02/24/2003 3:46:34 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: TonyRo76
Tony, Roman Catholicisam carries the tradition the sects that split off don't, except the orthodox, but the schisms with them were more political.

It was when men decided that they should read the bible and interpret it by themselves, which the bible says not to do, is when the splits started.
38 posted on 02/24/2003 6:41:11 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: TonyRo76
Tony, you should know better. You're not going to convince me.
40 posted on 02/24/2003 7:00:04 AM PST by Desdemona
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