To: Myrddin
Some direct and indirect stats
HERE. Some key numbers:
"In 2002, California experienced its highest out-migration in seven years 52.1 percent according to United Van Lines' study of the company's 198,571 interstate household moves in the 48 contiguous U.S. states and Washington D.C."
The article also has a few other indirect measures of the difference between the numbers moving into CA and those moving out. For example:
"Renting a 17-foot U-Haul truck for a one-way trip from Flagstaff, Ariz. to San Jose at the end of February is $377, according to the company Web site. Reversing the trek, however, is a whole different story. It's $843 to rent the same truck in San Jose and drive it out of town to Flagstaff on the same day. The same kind of price differential is true at Budget where leaving Flagstaff for San Jose on Feb. 28 in a 15-foot truck costs $211.50, and flipping the trip costs $1,074.60."
Hope this was helpful.
To: Jubal Harshaw; NormsRevenge; Liz; SierraWasp; tubebender
Thanks for posting this great link.
This replicates what was happening in Kali during our recession in the early 1990's.
Our younger son moved to Portland, Oregon in 1991. Budget Rentals wanted $1,000 if the truck was driven one way to Portland. We rented the truck for 4-5 days and returned it to Kali for about $300's.
At that time people were fleeing Kali to get out of the recession brought on by Willie Brown and his tax and spend days in the legislature.
In our fly club a few retired guys worked out great deals. They would fly to Portland, all expenses paid. They would drive back two vehicles or one truck and a trailer. They got paid, got meal expenses an overnight stay in a motel, and they fly fished down from Portland to the Bay Area or the Sac area. I may look into this when the warmer weather comes back.
The United Van's data is very scary. Those people leaving the state had good jobs and paid a lot of taxes.
25 posted on
02/24/2003 7:41:12 AM PST by
Grampa Dave
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Thanks for the reference. Clearly, the supply/demand pricing shows the outbound direction from California in higher demand. I left San Diego in December 2000. Mayflower hauled 21,000 lbs of personal effects to Pocatello for $7,500. U-Haul enjoyed two rentals at my expense for the same path. Each one cost me $1,500 for the truck with an auto trailer. I put my Saturn SL2 on the trailer to drive back in Feb 2001. In June 2001, I put my 914 on the trailer and took a plane back to San Diego.
Idaho is taking around $12,000 in state income taxes and $3,000 in property taxes. By comparison, California was taking $17,000 in state income taxes and about $1,800 in property taxes. The cost of living is lower in Idaho. Sales taxes and prices for goods and services are lower.
The temperature is lower too...it was 2.7 degrees F at sunrise this morning.
26 posted on
02/24/2003 9:05:55 AM PST by
Myrddin
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