Libertarians Look for a State to Call Their Own. (Free State Project)

The Everett Herald (WA) | 2/23/2003 | reprint from the Baltimore Sun

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Plans are under way for an invasion of New Hampshire. Or Wyoming. Or maybe Delaware, Montana or Alaska. Sparsely populated and independent in spirit, they're all attractive targets for a certain bloodless coup in the making.

Within the next several years, according to the plan, 20,000 Libertarians would move to a single state and begin infiltrating. They'd get jobs, join civic groups, get elected and take a hatchet to taxes and laws. In this utopia called the Free State Project, schools would be severed from the state, gun-control laws abolished, drugs legalized, health and social services privatized, and most federal aid rejected. Government's only job would be to protect against "force and fraud."

[Protagoras]

Socialism and libertarianism in the same concept is impossible in the minds of sane people. Only in a warped bizarro world of the disturbed can such a thing exist.

[Roscoe]

Socialism and libertarianism in the same concept is impossible

Hardly.

[Protagoras]

That is your real name?

[sd-joe]

"Let them take over Massachusetts. That would be no lose to anyone."

>They are trying. They just mounted the most successful ballot inititive in state history. To repeal the state income tax. The Republicans opposed it."

In Massachusetts, the Repubs are an unprotected minority. In some areas in a recent election, they did not even come in SECOND. They do, I suppose, what they think they have to to survive.

This is why Mass would be a perfect state for the Libertarians. They could hardly do worse then the Kennedy Democraps.

[Moby Grape]

You boys have such a silly, childish habit of broad brush generalizations....(not to mention the nuts in your mist). Everyone who doesn't drink your VERSION of anit-statist Koolaide, is any number of names your small cult loves to tag them with...from statist to police state thugs, we just don't measure up to the high (no dope pun intended) level of realization found among the ranks of the LP....You are like democrats who claim that the ONLY reason Americans do not vote for them is because their opponents out spent them, and thus they could not get their "message" out, or because we are just too dull of wit to understand how foolish, (if not out right un-American) we are when we do not support the ONLY true light...The Libertarian Party....and like liberal democrats, you just cannot believe that people who love this nation, and respect the Contitution, have decided that the LP is not the answer.

[Roscoe]

The word "libertarian" has been widely used in conjunction with the word "anarchist" and anti-authoritarian strands of socialist organisations, groups, and individuals since the turn of the century. For example, in the US, Sam Dolgoff started the still-running anarcho-syndicalist publication "Libertarian Labor Review" in the late 1980's, and Noam Chomsky has repeatedly spoken about a libertarian socialist solution to the oppression of workers worldwide. In France (Paris, Nanterre, and Bretagne), Italy, Lebanon & Belgium there are separate anarchist publications and/or groups all currently using the name "Libertarian Alternative". In London, England the Soliderity group published a series of periodicals since 1960, one of the most recent entitled "Soliderity: A Journal of Libertarian Socialism", and George Woodcock wrote "Anarchism: A History of Libertarian Ideas and Movements" in 1962 (some 9 years before the creation of the US Libertarian Party.) In Cuba in 1959 there existed an anti-capitalist, anti-state organisation called the "Libertarian Association of Cuba". In the 1950's George Fontenis published "The Manifesto of Libertarian Communism". In New York City, July 1954 Russell Blackwell, Esther and Sam Dolgoff formed the Libertarian League, of which for a short time Murray Bookchin was a member. Erlier, in 1949, Gregory P. Maximoff initiated the Libertarian Book Club just before he died in 1950.

http://home.onestop.net/tamagogino/libsoc.html

Libertarianism's origins.

[Protagoras]

This is why Mass would be a perfect state for the Libertarians.

The whole country used to be libertarian, now they have to find a state to flee to. Some progress.

They could hardly do worse then the Kennedy Democraps.

The whole state is Democratic and the vote narrowly missed. The Republicans opposed the tax cut measure. The governor who was elected is a Republican. He opposed it.

[Roscoe]

The whole country used to be libertarian

The Whopper of the Day award goes to Protagoras!

[Protagoras]

Give it a rest, no one cares about your reading habits. The lunatic fringe writes tripe like this and the obtuse read it and believe.

The "freedom is slavery" crowd is the same as the bizarro "up is down" crowd.

Folks who believe moronic rantings like that are the same ones who bought into death camps setting people free.

[Protagoras]

The Whopper of the Day award goes to Protagoras!

The truth just kills you guys.

Freedom is slavery and the country was always fascist.

The goofy thought of the year award goes to Roscoe.

[sd-joe]

Hey, I want to GIVE the Libs the state, and you want to fight with me.

The problem with Libs is that they don't want to co-operate with anyone else to get things done. If the Libs, a minority in Mass, and the Repubs, a minority in Mass, could work together they could actually achieve something.

[Roscoe]

The truth

Sourceless question begging.

[Protagoras]

Watch out, here come the mods. The poster has a well deserved reputation for making obtuse comments until he draws a well deserved insult and then hitting the abuse button. It's a game for him.

[rwfromkansas]

Sounds cool to me, if you get the right kind of libertarian living there...not the Bill Maher types.

[Protagoras]

If the Libs, a minority in Mass, and the Repubs, a minority in Mass, could work together they could actually achieve something.

What would they work together on? Eliminating the income tax? LOL, the Republicans opposed that.

[Protagoras]

not the Bill Maher types.

Oh pulleeezz, don't pull that old Maher thing out again, he's not a libertarian on any level.