Posted on 02/22/2003 8:34:22 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
General Julian Hatcher, a noted forensic pathologist, in the early 1900s developed a good formula to determine the theoretical stopping power of a firearm cartridge. His formula has withstood the test of time and validation from other studies and data related to stopping power.
You want a handgun cartridge that has a Hatcher value of over 50 for the most effective stopping power. Values over 55 have diminishing returns in that you dont gain any significant increase in stopping power for the extra recoil and control you must cope with. Handgun cartridges that dont make a value of at least 50, should not considered for self-defense. If the rating of your handgun cartridge is under 30, it only has about a 30% chance of producing a one shot stop. Hatcher Ratings of 30 to 49 raise a one shot stop to approximately a 50% chance. Ratings of 50 or higher produce a one shot stop about 90% of the time.
Handgun Cartridge Type ..................... Hatcher Rating
.45 ACP full metal jacket 230 grain .......... 49.1
.45 ACP jacketed hollow point 230 grain ...... 60.7
.44 Magnum full metal jacket 240 grain ....... 92.3
*.44 Magnum lead wad cutter 240 grain ......... 136.8
.44 Special full metal jacket 240 grain ...... 51.6
*.44 Special lead wad cutter 240 grain ............. 76.5
.41 Magnum full metal jacket 230 grain ............. 54
*.41 Magnum lead wad cutter 230 grain .............. 80
10 millimeter full metal jacket 180 grain .......... 50.3
10 millimeter jacketed hollow point 180 grain ..62.1
.40 S&W full metal jacket flat nose 180 grain ...... 53.4
.40 S&W jacketed hollow point 180 grain ....... 59.4
.38 Special full metal jacket 158 grain ...... 26.7
*.38 Special lead wad cutter 158 grain ............. 39.7
**.357 Magnum full metal jacket 158 grain ..... 32.7
**.357 Magnum lead wad cutter 158 grain ............ 48.5
.357 SIG full metal jacket 147 grain ................ 36.6
.357 SIG jacketed hollow point 147 grain ..... 45.2
9 millimeter full metal jacket 147 grain ............ 32.3
9 millimeter jacketed hollow point 147 grain ... 39.9
.380 Auto jacketed hollow point 95 grain ..... 18.3
.32 Auto jacketed hollow point 71 grain ...... 11.1
.25 Auto jacketed hollow point 50 grain ...... 3.7
.22 Long Rifle jacketed hollow point 40 grain ... 4.2
* Jacketed hollow points will have the same rating as wad cutter bullets if the bullet hollow tip is greater than 1/2 of the caliber of the bullet.
* .357 Magnum ratings are taken from a firearm with a 3 inch barrel. Longer barrels will raise the rating of the round.
I'll have to check out that +p ammo.
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heh heh, yes they do.
The Sub 2000 can be ordered with a reciever for S&W, Glock or Beretta. The 9mm pistol takes a S&W.
I started my son, when he was 5 feet tall and weighed 95 pounds with a chopped 45 automatic. he found the 'soft' recoil of it easier to handle than a .38 revolver or even a .32 auto.
I'm PINGing .38 SW
She has moved from an occasional shooter to a bit 45 fan in the last year or so.
So9
Don't tell anyone about this one.....Keep this to yourself........:o)
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I hear the Walther P 99 .40 S&W handgun is good choice too.
Do not let her carry a gun in her purse. A purse is usually the first article a thief will grab.
This is a Glock 23
What do you intend to use the pistol for? Concealed carry? Home defense?
You can't go wrong buying a Glock, Sig Sauer or Heckler and Koch. My next handgun purchase may be a Colt .45 Defender 90 series. I have heard good reviews about the .45 Colt Defender 90 Series. It holds 7 or 8 + 1 rounds of .45 ACP ammunition and it is very light and good for concealed carry.
I am also a fan of the Glock 30 and Glock 23. Both are also great handguns.
.45 Colt Defender 90 Series
Good thing you didn't post a picture of it on the Internet!
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I love my Glock 23 for concealed carry, but I am leaning toward buying another gun because of the issue of no safety. About any kid picking up a Glock could discharge it. If you are using a semi-auto handgun for home defense there is the option of keeping the chamber empty with the magazine loaded to full capacity in the gun.
I think the Glock 30 is a better choice than the Glock 21 for a .45 handgun. The Glock 30 holds 10+1 rounds of .45 ammunition and is an easy to conceal firearm. I have had the pleasure of shooting a Glock 30 before and was surprised at how well it handled the .45 ACP round because the gun is so small. You can't get the Glock 21 13 round magazines anymore unless you want to pay over $80 for a 13 round magazine. The 10 round magazines for a Glock 21 cost about $21.50. 3 extra rounds aren't worth an extra $60 to me.
Gun Tests also gave a good review to the Colt .45 Defender 90 Series. The Glock would probably last longer than the Colt, but with the Colt you have a safety. (Sigh) So many guns so few dollars.
If you're able to hit someone in the center of the chest with one of those rounds I am sure he will die. (You will probably not have hearing after the situation has ended and you have to buy a hearing aid for permanent ear damage.)
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