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Nothing is coincidental in Southeast Va.
1 posted on 02/21/2003 11:33:34 PM PST by Pro-Bush
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To: Pro-Bush
I lived in Hampton at one time.

For those who don't know, this is a center of military bases: Air Force, Army and Navy, and also the shipyards which build the naval fleet are located there.

Five children dead from a virus is very alarming. One of the early indicators of deadly flu is high mortality in the young and old.

This could be flu or something else (!)

Has the CDC been called in ?

2 posted on 02/21/2003 11:39:23 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Pro-Bush
"Officials said they "could not rule out anything," but stressed that they do not believe the deaths were caused by a biological attack. Out of 100 possible explanations, one state doctor said, bioterrorism would be the 101st reason he would examine."

With the current state of the health care system - being extremely liberal - and mostly refusing to even take their smallpox vax - I'd say that this statement shows just how far into denial that they are. Like West Nile Virus "just happened" to get to the US. Yeah, right.

3 posted on 02/21/2003 11:50:55 PM PST by 11B3 (Post Vulcan Cannons At The Next "Peace" March. And USE THEM.)
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To: Pro-Bush
Is there any similarity between this and the virus in South China which recently took several lives?
4 posted on 02/21/2003 11:54:46 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Pro-Bush
Five children who died in southeast Virginia in the past week had no contact with each other and did not attend the same schools or take similar medicines, according to state health officials, who also dismissed bioterrorism as a cause of the mysterious deaths.

Just what is there in this statement that would convince anybody that bioterrorism is ruled out? No tin foil here just curiosity.

7 posted on 02/22/2003 12:07:30 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: Pro-Bush
if some sort of freakish new flu were to appear, can't they make a vaccine like they do every year of the most popular ones and vaccinate people?
9 posted on 02/22/2003 12:17:39 AM PST by ecru
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To: Pro-Bush
A leading virologist who heads one of the World Health Organisation's
influenza centres says a failure by mainland officials to provide
sufficient information on the latest bird flu outbreak could hamper
efforts to control any potential epidemic.

Masato Tashiro, director of the WHO's collaborating centre for influenza
in Tokyo, told the South China Morning Post he was unhappy with the way
mainland officials were handling both the bird flu incidents in Fujian and
the recent pneumonia outbreak in Guangdong.


"Controlling an influenza epidemic is a global matter. But we do not have
much information despite repeated inquiries to the Ministry of Health. We
are worried that it is a beginning of an epidemic," he said.


The Tokyo centre is one of the four WHO collaborating offices for
influenza. The other three are in London, Atlanta and Melbourne.


"It is crucial that we know about the transmission route of the virus -
where and when the Hong Kong man and his son caught the virus," Dr Tashiro
said.


Speaking from Tokyo yesterday, he added that the WHO and international
scientists should press harder for an opportunity to join the
investigation in China.


Hong Kong's Department of Health confirmed earlier this week that a
33-year-old Hong Kong man, who died on Monday, and his nine-year-old son
became the first humans infected with H5N1 since 1997.


Moves were stepped up yesterday to test relatives of the man and his son
in Pingtan, Fujian province, where the family gathered for the Lunar New
Year.


Dr Tashiro said he was concerned about whether there was any link among
bird flu incidents in Hong Kong farms and parks recently and the Guangdong
pneumonia outbreak.


The WHO has activated the global flu response plan for the first time
since 1997, when six out of 18 people infected died of a bird flu strain
previously not seen in humans.


Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food Yeoh Eng-kiong said yesterday:
"There is no immediate risk of any pandemic and we are on top of the
problem."

http://www.scmp.com/topnews/ZZZ6A4NA3CD.html


20 posted on 02/22/2003 3:00:50 AM PST by per loin
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To: Pro-Bush
Why is nothing coincidental in Southeast Virginia?

I could understand that comment if it was Northeast Virginia...

21 posted on 02/22/2003 3:32:03 AM PST by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: Pro-Bush
It is very scary to me that doctors are so quick to absolutely rule out bio-terror...which tells me that when we are attacked that way, the disease is going to spread like wild-fire with all the doctors heads stuck in the sand unable to figure out what they are looking at.

My wife is a nurse, my mother-in-law, 3 sisters in-laws are all nurses...the horror stories I hear about grossly incompetenet doctors, on a daily basis, makes me really nervous about the average doctor being able to diagnose anything out of the ordinary...
25 posted on 02/22/2003 4:43:18 AM PST by freeper12
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To: Pro-Bush
Here is a link to a similar story. (And the story in case the link doesn't work.)

http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/0302/06/d01-78436.htm

Thursday, February 6, 2003


No links found in children's fatalities

Death of 2 kids still a mystery; 3rd had flu, died of encephalitis

By Amy Lee / The Detroit News

BLOOMFIELD HILLS -- The death of a 5-year-old Bloomfield Hills girl from flu complications is unrelated to two mysterious deaths of Washtenaw County children, officials said Wednesday.

Alana Yaksich, a kindergartner at Pine Lake Elementary School, died Monday of encephalitis, a brain inflammation that's a rare flu complication.

In Washtenaw County, an autopsy report Wednesday on 14-year-old David Tripp, who died Jan. 25, could not establish a cause of death. Tripp of Ypsilanti lost consciousness at home after complaining of aches, a sore throat and an upset stomach. He died shortly afterward.

Meghan Spieles, a 6-year-old Ann Arbor Township resident, died Friday.

Health officials expect to complete Meghan's autopsy in the next day or so, said Dr. Stan Reedy, medical director at the Washtenaw County Department of Public Health.

"In a way, perhaps, (Alana's) parents are a little more fortunate because they know what caused the death, where the other parents are still unaware of what symptoms caused their child's death," said Jennifer Woliung, community relations director for the Bloomfield Hills School District.

Seven-year-old Yazzmin Zama of Rochester Hills also died recently of a genetic blood disease with complications from pneumonia, officials said.

Michigan health officials have alerted the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta of the unexplained deaths, which is routine in such cases, said Geralyn Lasher of the Michigan Department of Community Health.

The state is helping Washtenaw County health officials determine what killed David and Meghan, Lasher said. But Reedy said David Tripp's death may remain a mystery.

"There's always a small percentage where the cause of death remains unknown," he said.

In 2002, 92 U.S. children who exhibited flu-like symptoms died without health officials ever determining a cause of death, CDC spokeswoman Katie Hoskins said.


You can reach Amy Lee at (248) 647-8605 or alee@detnews.com.
28 posted on 02/22/2003 5:34:02 AM PST by yankeedog
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To: Pro-Bush
Paranoia alert!
29 posted on 02/22/2003 6:11:40 AM PST by verity
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To: Pro-Bush
Last month a Marine recruit died and all training was halted at boot camp in San Diego. There has also been outbreaks in Texas. These were staph infections which have symptoms similar to flu.
31 posted on 02/22/2003 6:53:54 AM PST by opbuzz
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To: Pro-Bush
Hmm.


Don't fear the Reaper.

Regards, Ivan

32 posted on 02/22/2003 6:57:37 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Lion's Cub
What's the scuttlebutt in the medical community down your way?
36 posted on 02/22/2003 7:29:59 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Pro-Bush
"an apparent viral infection that caused flu-like symptoms"

You mean... THE FLU.

The flu has been beating the hell out of us this year, school on the east side of Tucson (a place that generally avoids the flu, too warm to get sick) have been reporting absenteeism percentages in the 40s.

You're right, nothing coincidental, it's flu season and kids are getting the flu. That's how you know it's flu season.
38 posted on 02/22/2003 7:35:37 AM PST by discostu (This tag intentionally left blank)
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To: Pro-Bush
flu-like symptoms, including sore throat, wheezing, coughing, ear infections, and low-grade fevers

Those don't sound like flu symptoms to me. They sound like head cold symptoms.

I'm on day 8 of these very same symptoms (and I'm ready for them to leave). It's been going around here although for some inexplicable reason I seem to have gotten worse case of it than anyone we know. It's a butt kicker.

46 posted on 02/22/2003 7:54:22 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: Pro-Bush
Maybe RSV -- Respiratory Syncytial Virus
57 posted on 02/23/2003 1:21:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Pro-Bush
Bump to read later!
60 posted on 02/23/2003 1:41:15 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Pro-Bush
More from Michigan.

Fremont toddler's flu death deepens probe

Thursday, February 20, 2003
By Kathleen Longcore
The Grand Rapids Press

A 21/2-year-old Fremont boy who died on Valentine's Day is West Michigan's third casualty after a flu-like illness and the state's seventh child death since late January.

Services were held Tuesday for Jack Henry Williams, the son of Robert and Michelle Williams, who died at home. He had been sick with a flu-like illness, and the death certificate will list the flu as the cause of death, said Curt Crandell, director of Crandell Funeral Homes Inc. in Fremont.

Jack, adopted from South Korea in August 2000, would have been 3 in April. He was his parents' "gift from God," according to his obituary, and he loved his dog Murphy, books, dinosaurs, cartoons, wrestling, singing "Old MacDonald," watching "Blues Clues," going to church and drinking chocolate milk.

A spokeswoman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta confirmed Wednesday that researchers will include the West Michigan deaths in their investigation of child deaths in Michigan and northwestern Ohio.

Those include East Kentwood High School sophomore Billy Joe Green III, who died Saturday, and Ashley Susan Racine, 11, a Hastings Middle School sixth-grader, who died Feb. 12. Both experienced pneumonia that came on very swiftly after flu-like symptoms.

The Michigan Department of Community Health contacted the CDC for help, said CDC spokeswoman Katie Hoskins.

"They wanted us to help confirm causes of death. Are we sure this is a flu virus, and are we sure this is a pneumonia we see following the flu? That's what we're looking at," Hoskins said, noting that tests on tissue samples could take several weeks.

Just over 90 children under 18 die in the United States each year from pneumonia and complications from influenza, Hoskins said, so it is unusual to have seven deaths in southern Michigan and two in northern Ohio within a few weeks. She said she knew of no similar flu investigation in any other state.

The deaths have caused worry over common viruses that people call "the flu" but which are not true influenza, said Dr. Mimi Emig, a Grand Rapids infectious disease specialist.

Emig said stomach and intestinal viruses are often mistakenly called "the flu." They make a person feel lousy but they don't usually carry the risk of the true flu.

However, any virus or infection can weaken the body's immune system and make it susceptible to dangerous complications like pneumonia, she said. And pneumonia can come on all by itself, with no preceding illness.

A University of Michigan flu expert, Dr. Arnold Monto, said the outbreak in southeast Michigan is the worst in three years. But Kent County Health Department officials who track absences from area schools say numbers here are running about normal for this time of year.

In general, adults with the flu are contagious for four or five days and children for seven or eight days. Those who have symptoms are urged to stay at home and not expose others.

The CDC tests will determine which Michigan cases had true influenza, which comes in three strains -- two type A viruses and one type B.

Health officials want to stay on top of which flu bugs are circulating to make sure the vaccine they offer is effective, Emig said.

"Influenza mutates every year and vaccine makers try to predict what those changes are going to look like," Emig said. "So far, both (influenza) A and B are circulating in Michigan, and this year's vaccine has been very effective against both."

Federal officials now recommend flu shots for children as well as adults.

61 posted on 02/23/2003 1:44:47 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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The same thing, with three child deaths, happened in metro detroit area two weeks ago. They all had "flu like symptoms."
62 posted on 02/23/2003 1:46:29 AM PST by rodeocowboy
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CDC flu deaths investigation widens

Five children suffering from influenza-like illnesses have died in Virginia; North Carolina officials investigate 18-month-old boy's death

Saturday, February 22, 2003

BY PATTY MAHER
News Staff Reporter

The federal Centers for Disease Control has expanded its investigation into mysterious child deaths to include Virginia, where five children suffering from flu-like illnesses have died since Sunday.

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The CDC first began investigating a series of deaths in Michigan between Jan. 25 and Feb. 3. CDC officials later added the deaths of two Ohio children to their inquiry. All the children suffered symptoms, such as fever and aches,, common to viral or bacterial infections.

In Michigan, Ohio, and Virginia alone, at least 14 children have died suddenly following fevers and respiratory infections. Also, The Associated Press reported Friday that North Carolina health officials were investigating the death of an 18-month-old boy who died Thursday at Albemarle Regional Hospital in Elizabeth City, just south of the area where four of the Virginia children died.

Federal health officials don't know the degree to which similar deaths are occurring in additional states. A spokeswoman from the CDC said her organization Friday afternoon sent notices to all state health departments to warn physicians and parents to be on the alert for respiratory and flu-like infections.

Meanwhile, Ann Tripp of Ypsilanti still waits to learn what caused her 14-year-old son, David, to die Jan. 25. His was the first of the deaths to capture the interest of public health officials. She said she finds the growing number of mysterious child deaths unbelievable.

"I am really anxious to find out if this is a virus that all the kids are getting that is very similar. Is it going in and attacking them each in vulnerable organs that these children have? Each of them isn't dying from the same thing, but they are going in with the same thing - a cold-virus kind of thing."

Tripp is braced for the fact that it may be weeks before results from David's tests are available.

"It's hard to put any kind of closure on this when you don't know," Tripp said.

Meanwhile, Geralyn Lasher, spokeswoman for the Michigan Department of Community Health, said tests today confirmed that a Newaygo County boy died Feb. 14 of Influenza Type A. The victim was identified as 2-year-old Jack Henry Williams, a child from South Korea who was adopted in August 2000 by Robert and Michelle Williams.

Meghan Spieles, 6, of Ann Arbor Township, and Alana Yaksich, 5, of Bloomfield Hills, also had influenza Type A. Meghan's death was attributed to pneumonia and Alana's to flu-related encephalitis, a swelling of the brain.

So far only a few of the children have tested positive for influenza, although public health officials suspect it may have been a factor in several of the deaths. Because some of the children, Including Tripp, became ill so suddenly and died without having had flu tests, pathologists must rely on sophisticated tissue-sample tests, which can take weeks to conduct and don't always provide definite answers.

CDC spokeswoman Kathy Harben said that although all five of the Virginia children experienced upper-respiratory infections, nothing else so far has linked the cases. Nor have the cases been linked to those in Michigan and Ohio. Officials still don't know what caused the Virginia deaths, Harben said. Tissue samples will be sent for evaluation to the CDC, where studies are being done on the Michigan deaths.

Awilda A. Carter, mother of 2-year-old Maria Carter, the first Virginia child to die, said her daughter had been running a fever and vomiting. She said doctors initially said the girl had an ear infection but changed the diagnosis to influenza after a second visit.

"She was running around and playing," Carter said. "She kept having a fever, but she never got more sick." Carter said her daughter fell asleep on the couch Sunday and never woke up.

After the autopsy, doctors told the family they thought a virus had attacked the girl's heart muscle, Carter said. Tripp said earlier this month that Washtenaw County Medical Examiner Bader Cassin told her the same thing. Cassin has not returned a reporter's phone calls for comment.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

63 posted on 02/23/2003 1:52:50 AM PST by rodeocowboy
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