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To: DTA
Do you also believe the government of the USA should pay slave reparations?

As a child, I visited a craft village that also included a holocaust museum/memorial.I have never forgotten the posters of pits and mounds of dead human bodies.The sight is not one I would willingly let my child view, untill she is at least old enough to have some mental defense mechanisms against that level of horror.Even though the holocaust happened 18 years before my birth,I have carried the memory of its horror, and have always supported the rightness of the nation of Israel to exist,based upon simple human justice.I stand by Israel today.

NEVER AGAIN indeed.

But "it" did happen again, did it not?In Rwanda, against the Tutsis, in 1994.Where was Israel then? I dont remember hearing of heroic Israeli efforts to stop the genocide.The USA was also conspiciously absent.The UN?The UN also turned a blind eye.

If you wish to punish the current people of Europe for the sins of their fathers, feel free.Do not expect the second and third generations of Europe, who are innocent of inflicting that horror, to view you as rational, or accept the unearned accusation of murderous genocidal intent.

I have never understood why the hatred of the Jewish people flourished, and still exists in this world.

I am now very aware of how it is possible to hate a group of people for their religion.Islamic terrorists have taught me how "it" can very easily happen again.Will the genocide of Islamic people count as a holocaust, or do you think it a justifiable self defense?

What did the Tutsis do to deserve their fate?

I am a citizen of the USA.My ancestors included a race that endured the horror of genocide.Who should suffer for those crimes?Those who actually did it are long dead.Shall I hate half of my personal genetic makeup for the sake of self righteous superiority as a partial member of a recognised victim class in history?

If NEVER AGAIN really means "never again", when will "never again" start?

6 posted on 02/21/2003 6:48:05 PM PST by sarasmom (trying to remain calm..)
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To: sarasmom
Will the genocide of Islamic people count as a holocaust, or do you think it a justifiable self defense?

No one is advocating genocide against the islamic people, however psychopathic madmen who incite murder will be eliminated for the good of all mankind. And as a Christian I don't hate our enemies, but they will be destroyed . The people who would harm us through terrorism have been warned. We don't ask them to renounce Allah, Live as we do, or even like us. They just have to stop murdering innocent civilians.
7 posted on 02/21/2003 7:48:20 PM PST by ffusco ("Omnis Gallia delenda est!")
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To: sarasmom
I have lived in Germany the past two years and the problem is, a lot of those second- and third-generation Europeans are as equally anti-Semitic as their fathers. The Leftist Germans just play a more subtle game and mask it as "anti-Israel." And furthermore, they turn a blind eye to the worldwide persecution of Christians by Muslims because it is not hip to be a Christian in contemporary Germany. (It IS hip, though, to wear Che T-shirts or Muslim black-and-white checked scarves with fringe at the edges to express solidarity with the terrorists.) That's why Muslim extremists flourish so easily in Germany right now. I've had many Leftist Germans tell me that Arab Muslims are more welcome here than any American with German heritage. I've also had Arab Muslims be abusive to me -- both physically and verbally -- on public transport systems, and NOT ONE German came to my defense. Instead, they just acted as if they did not see or hear anything.

Just some food for your line of thought...
8 posted on 02/21/2003 8:32:48 PM PST by MissouriForBush
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To: sarasmom
I dont remember hearing of heroic Israeli efforts to stop the genocide

In 1994, the left-wing party running the government of Israel had just signed the Oslo accords, and was under a terrorist assault (the first big wave of suicide bombers). It was receiving assistance from the US to purchase military weapons. It was in no position to go off on a grand adventure overseas while hostile armies gathered on its borders.

10 posted on 02/21/2003 10:08:11 PM PST by xm177e2 (smile) :-)
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To: sarasmom
NEVER AGAIN. Yeah, right.

If you wish to punish the current people of Europe for the sins of their fathers, feel free.Do not expect the second and third generations of Europe, who are innocent of inflicting that horror, to view you as rational, or accept the unearned accusation of murderous genocidal intent.

Sarasmom has it right.

The concept of NEVER AGAIN requires a historical framework, but a broad brush not only tarnishes the memory of the Righteous Among the Nations but it prevents us from distinguishing our friends from our enemies. Europe today, as in the 30s is a very mixed bag.

18 posted on 02/22/2003 10:50:24 AM PST by SJackson
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