Whites Swim in Racial Preference

AlterNet ^ | 02.20.03 | Tim Wise

[sauropod]

timjwise@msn.com

Posted as a public service...

[mhking]

I'm sick of someone (i.e., the author of this tripe) trying to make excuses for me. I didn't stop to ask anybody for excuses...

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[judgeandjury]

all you folks don't forget that we stole half of mexico too

Yes, after Mexico "stole" it from Spain. And after Spain "stole" it from...

[dighton]

Tell me where I can pick my "power elite" membership card.

Ask Poohbah about our February special.

[WriteOn]

must be talking about white *women*

[Michael2001]

Barf

[No Left Turn]

Even if fish were capable of speech, they would likely have no explanation for the element they swim in every minute of every day of their lives.

Let me get this straight, all that's keeping us from finding out whether fish can define water is their inability to speak. Note to self: quit peeing in the ocean, otherwise sign-language enabled fish will be able to tell on me.

Along the same lines, what's air?

[dljordan]

I use my "Racial Preference" to enjoy a relaxing 50 or 60 hour week. When I've got time off I use it to bask in the satisfying knowledge that I've worked for the government for half the week. I give them my tax money joyfully, knowing that they will help some poor person who doesn't have the "Racial Preference" I enjoy. I feel good.

[dark_lord]

Affirmative action for whites was embodied in the abolition of European indentured servitude, which left black (and occasionally indigenous) slaves as the only unfree labor in the colonies that would become the U.S.

And even this is BS. Something technically true that is actually false. Here's another angle on that -- the history that most are ignorant of. Maybe we could have a White History Month to teach this.

In the 17th century the average life expectancy (in England) was around 35 years. More accurately however, if one lived to 15 then one had good odds of hitting 50. BUT! A large number of those "transported" were teenagers, and many died on the trip. Why?

Because the exact same kind of ships, and sometimes the exact same ships that were used in the slave trade were used to transport criminals from England to the colonies. And criminals could be transported (or hanged) for a variety of things that today would be considered misdemeanors. The magistrates were paid money by the ship owners to assign petty criminals for transport (in preference to hanging.) "Trials" were often held in the magistrates living rooms or a private office, where 12 year old kids were convicted of the crime of petty theft - stealing so they wouldn't starve to death. The local "watch" or cops would get a kickback from the magistrate. The ship captains would then sell their "indentures" when they got over here.

The death rate on the transport ships was similar to the slave ships. The conditions were the same - the transportees were chained down and packed into the holds. Where the African slave ships were hot, the Northern route was COLD (and wet.) Many died of lung congestion and fevers. While fewer transportees died on a ship that made it compared to the slave ships, because of storms in the North Atlantic more ships were lost entirely, which tended to balance out the total losses as being about the same.

When a transportee had their indenture sold, it was normally for a period of seven years. The men were often used for clearing land and other hazardous activities, women were often used for prostitution, although many were used for house servants. However, in many cases the indentured servant had to pay for extra clothes, meals, etc. Thus their length of service was added on to the original seven years.

While the children of indentured servants could not be "sold", their parents could be charged for their childrens food, clothing, and housing, thus adding to the length of the parents indenture. Thus many indentured servants had many years added to their terms of indenture. The lucky childern would be apprenticed off around the age of 6 - 8. This was a good deal for them, because they could learn a trade and would be free. For those who weren't apprenticed, they would go on to be servants or laborers themselves.

Many transportees who were indentured never became free.

The above notwithstanding, the significant difference between the indenture system and slavery is that the children of the indentured servants could be free, and most were.

[Old Professer]

Air is an association of all the free gases on the planet.

[No Left Turn]

You are smarter than a fish.

[MHGinTN]

I wonder if we will ever get back to discriminating against incompetence, get back to preference for exemplary work done to support the effort at commerce, take affirmative action when excellence in education has more focus than 'get them through the diploma phase, with or without proving competence'...?

It's hard to focus on advancing our collective interest as fellow Americans when so many want to loiter about, complaining.

[KLT]

Sounds like an e-mail is comin from me.....

[demosthenes the elder]

be sure to pass that info along... I WANT my BACK DUES!

[demosthenes the elder]

thanks - as a fella with a couple of indentured in my woodpile, I am glad to see these facts made publicly available.

[demosthenes the elder]

...which them durned Mexies dun stolt frum th'Injuns inna fust place.
the whining never ceases, does it?
Be true, Lone Star.

[johnb838]

"How bout a little more California, and a little less Mexico"

Tim Calhoun

[netmilsmom]

H*ll, drive on the East side of Telegraph and see how you fit in.

[Dan from Michigan]

H*ll, drive on the East side of Telegraph and see how you fit in.

Or Lasher and Grand River...........

[netmilsmom]

Hey, when I first moved here with my blonde curly haired daughter, a greek lady at a car repair shop that my husband found, told me never go past Telegraph on Joy Road except escorted. Many a blonde woman has gone where the street signs are in Arabic and never returned. My baby would never be seen again. Now I know that this is an Urban Legend meant to spook newcomers, but actually a white woman feels out of place in Dearborn as well.
In Cleveland, where I'm from, the closer one gets to the Lake the more run down the neighborhood is. It was so frightening to just be driving in the greater Detroit area and suddenly be in a war zone. Like the first time I was in Pontiac!!!!!!!!