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To: vooch
vooch wrote:
Hmmmm........could it be that those much publicized photos of bodies with their hands tied behind their back are actually those of victims of Nasir Oric ?

Vooch- the Muslimani had a nasty habit of tying up their victims to torture or "burn to a stake" (figure of speech) prior to killing them. Regarding Oric, that fits his outfits M.O and the jihadians who were brought in from the Middle East.
Tie, Torture and Tap

232 posted on 02/24/2003 7:41:17 AM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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To: smokegenerator
smokegenerator wrote:
"Vooch- the Muslimani had a nasty habit of tying up their victims to torture or "burn to a stake" (figure of speech) prior to killing them. Regarding Oric, that fits his outfits M.O and the jihadians who were brought in from the Middle East.
Tie, Torture and Tap "

But homeagain balkansvet explained us, that therer is no evidence of that?

Serbian testimonies on war crimes in and around Srebrenica (<- click)

Karadjordje

235 posted on 02/24/2003 8:06:59 AM PST by Karadjordje
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To: smokegenerator
When I was in Bosnia, we had to keep tabs on Oric and bunch, who were living just on the outskirts of Tuzla, but we weren't allowed to do anything...since he was one of the "good" guys. I see, under Bush, nothing has changed. Bush should have followed his father's example on this one...to bad he didn't.
239 posted on 02/24/2003 9:53:23 AM PST by Stavka2 (Setting the record straight.)
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U.N. court upholds war-crime convictions

3 Bosnians guilty of torturing and killing Serb prisoners

Wednesday, February 21, 2001

By JEROME SOCOLOVSKY
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

THE HAGUE, Netherlands -- U.N. judges yesterday upheld the convictions of two Bosnian Muslims and a Bosnian Croat for the torture and murder of Serb prisoners during the 1992-95 ethnic conflict in former Yugoslavia.

The five-judge appellate panel led by David Hunt of Australia, however, quashed several other counts against the defendants and ordered the case referred to a new court to review their sentences.

No date was given for a further hearing of the case, which has dragged on since 1997 at the International Criminal Tribunal.

Zdravko Mucic, Hazim Delic, and Esad Landzo sat still between U.N. guards in the high-security courtroom as Hunt announced the decision. Mucic, the Bosnian Croat defendant, smiled and adjusted a chunky wooden crucifix on his chest.

The defendants were sent back to a U.N. detention center in The Hague "until further orders," the ruling said.

The so-called Celebici trial -- named for the camp in central Bosnia where the atrocities took place in 1992 -- is the only case before the tribunal involving crimes committed against ethnic Serbs.

On Nov. 16, 1998, a three-judge court at the tribunal convicted the three defendants of murder, torture and rape. They were sentenced to up to 20 years in prison.

The defendants, arguing they did not have formal authority over subordinates, said in their appeal that events at the camp occurred among local Bosnians of different ethnic backgrounds.

"A position of de facto command may be sufficient to establish the necessary superior-subordinate relationship," the appellate panel said yesterday in upholding the initial Celebici decision.

In a setback for the prosecution, however, the appeals chamber upheld the acquittal of a fourth defendant, Zejnil Delalic, a Muslim military commander.

Delalic had been accused of having overall control of the camp. The trial judges had said there was not enough evidence to link him to the atrocities.

The appellate case was a potentially embarrassing one for the tribunal: Grounds for appeal included the allegation that the Nigerian presiding judge in the original trial, Adolphus Karibi-Whyte, "was asleep during substantial portions of the trial," occasionally even snoring.

But the appellate judges rejected those grounds, saying they had "not been satisfied that any specific prejudice was suffered by ... the appellants." Karibi- Whyte's term was not renewed and he returned to Nigeria after the verdict.

Although yesterday's complex and technical judgment may have limited consequences for the defendants, it is likely to have broad ramifications for trials of political leaders charged with ordering mass atrocities.

That issue will be crucial in the cases of several Bosnian Serb leaders in custody and in particular if former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic and other top suspects are ever taken into custody.

Source: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/bosnia21.shtml (<- click)

Karadjordje

240 posted on 02/24/2003 3:10:34 PM PST by Karadjordje
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