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Cracks in the Estrada Filibuster?
The Hill ^ | 2/20/03 | Byron York

Posted on 02/20/2003 12:30:46 PM PST by votelife

BYRON YORK This is how the filibuster will fall to pieces

Right now the Senate debate over the appeals court nomination of Miguel Estrada seems hopelessly deadlocked. When Democrat Harry Reid of Nevada says, “It doesn't matter if there is one cloture vote or 50 cloture votes, we will all be together,” and when Republican Orrin Hatch or Utah says, “I'll stay here ‘til hell freezes over” -- well, things don't look good.

But beneath all the tough rhetoric -- and the lobbying campaigns of interest groups on both sides -- there's a relatively simple solution to the standoff. And it might emerge soon after lawmakers come back from the Presidents’ Day recess.

The two main Democratic objections to Estrada are that he has not fully answered questions about his legal views and that the Bush administration has refused to release internal Justice Department memos he wrote while he served in the Solicitor General’s office -- memos that Democrats contend might contain insights into Estrada's legal thinking.

“For the Senate to make an informed decision about Mr. Estrada's nomination, it is essential that we receive the information requested and answers to these basic legal questions,” Minority Leader Tom Daschle (S.D.) and ranking Judiciary Committee Democrat Patrick Leahy (Vt.) wrote in a Feb. 11 letter to the president.

The White House responded the next day with a 15-page, single-spaced letter from counsel Alberto Gonzales. Most news reports characterized it as a refusal of Daschle and Leahy's request — which it was — but missed the letter's between-the-lines suggestions for compromise.

On the issue of questions for Estrada, Gonzales noted that Daschle and Leahy cited just one inquiry that Estrada did not answer -- a question about his judicial role models. Gonzales wrote that Estrada in fact discussed that very issue in response to a written question from Sen. Richard Durbin (Ill.).

“ Beyond this one query, your letter does not pose any additional questions to [Estrada],” Gonzales said. “Additionally, neither of you has posed any written questions to Mr. Estrada in the more than three months since his all-day committee hearing.”

In that sentence is what appears to be a White House message to Democrats: You can ask more questions. There’s nothing in Gonzales’s letter to suggest that Estrada would not answer them.

On the second issue, the White House is standing firm against giving the internal Justice Department papers to the Senate. But Gonzales went out of his way to point out that some high-level Democrats have already seen the documents. The papers were, after all, written by Estrada during his time in the Clinton Justice Department. “It also is important to recognize that [Clinton] political appointees have read virtually all of the memoranda in question,” Gonzales wrote, “namely, the Democrat Solicitors General Drew Days, Walter Dellinger, and Seth Waxman.”

Gonzales also points out that none of those former officials have objected to Estrada's nomination. That’s another unspoken suggestion to Democrats: If you want to know more about the memos, ask the Democrats who have seen them. Days, Dellinger, and Waxman would most likely cite the same confidentiality concerns that led them to join other former Solicitors General in declaring release of the memos to be a bad idea, but they might be able say there was nothing in the papers that they found disturbing.

Republicans know there are some moderate Democrats who do not passionately oppose Estrada but who have so far stuck with the party in upholding the filibuster. Republicans also realize that, since hard-line Democratic leaders have made specific demands and vowed Estrada would not be confirmed unless the White House met those demands, those moderate Democrats will need some sort of Republican gesture they can use as cover to change their minds and stop supporting the filibuster.

That might already be happening. It has not been widely reported, but while the filibuster has been going on, Estrada has met with several Democratic senators, among them Mary Landrieu (La.), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Bill Nelson (Neb.), Herb Kohl (Wis.), and Thomas Carper (Del.). Presumably he has been answering some questions.

A few more such meetings, along with some reassuring words about the content of the Justice Department memos, and some moderate Democratic minds might change.

And in the end, there won't be 50 cloture votes, as Harry Reid suggested. There might not even be one. With four or five more moderate Democrats on board, Republicans will request, as they have several times already, that the Senate unanimously agree to end debate and give Estrada an up-or-down vote. So far, Democrats have refused every such request. But that might change soon.

Byron York is White House correspondent for National Review.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: estrada; filibuster
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To: PhiKapMom
PKM..probably an editorial slip...it's easy to do, and the editor should have caught it..but you're too harsh on York. He's had the best coverage of the Estrada affair, and he's very well connected to the GOP. In fact, one coulsd surmise that this is an open, back channel communication to Daschle that the GOP is close to getting the 9 Dems needed to sustain cloture. It's an attempt to give Daschle a chance to find a graceful exit.
61 posted on 02/20/2003 1:59:20 PM PST by ken5050
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Screw the moderates!!!!!!!!! I want to see a fight to the death of the demmocommies lying piece of dog s--t.
62 posted on 02/20/2003 2:01:12 PM PST by cksharks
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To: votelife
Most so called political experts maintainthat it's necessary for the Dems to oppose Estrada - that it makes good political sense for them because of their core constituencies. Don't forget these same "experts" also saw nothing wrong in the Wellstone "memorial" service, and we all know how well thayt turned out..
63 posted on 02/20/2003 2:04:33 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Iconoclast2
What was Estrada doing in the Clinton Justice Department?

I believe this is why the DEMS are having such a hard time with this. If Estrada was in the Justice Dept during the impeachment, he could have gotten a reputation as someone who had "differing" opinions than the other political hacks that were there.

The solicitors general would not object perhaps, but a certain Senator who resided in the White House during the impeachment may have some inside knowledge. She is the reason this is being filibustered.

64 posted on 02/20/2003 2:08:07 PM PST by TravisBickle
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To: ken5050
I know -- I am just really irritated at news reporting in general this week. York always does a good job but both Nelson's are supposedly on board -- one on both and the other one most likely on on cloture. Those are the kind of mistakes that you should doublecheck! It is knitpicking I know but thought you all should have the facts.

We had an editorial in our paper last fall that had daschle on board for the war on Iraq and he wasn't. I complained to our paper and their editorial board thanked me as they said they wanted to get all the facts straight. Maybe next time a writer will check out their facts! As the head of the Oklahoman said -- they pay people good money to get the facts right!

BTW I have two kids in journalism so I probably am more sensitive.
65 posted on 02/20/2003 2:08:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: ken5050
When your core constituency consists of pacifists, socialists, communists on one side and then the remaining honest dems on the other side (freepers can debate what percent is what) who will the former vote for if they please the "moderates?" Republicans? No way! But, they might invigorate the Green party. I love this strategery.
66 posted on 02/20/2003 2:14:10 PM PST by votelife (24/7)
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To: PhiKapMom
You're of course correct, but in the error of instant internet journalism, many times the articles are written at the site, as the interview is going on, and e-mailed directly and posted....so errors occasionally happen..like spelling mistakes that I make (g)..York is a good reporter, he probably knew what he wanted to say..it was a small brain lock.....but, you should e-mail him and "gently" chide him..he'll probably send you a coffee mug or a t-shirt.....regards
67 posted on 02/20/2003 2:19:11 PM PST by ken5050
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To: votelife
What a great ad! It hits right at home at the Rat Racists in Suit Senators scurry around!
68 posted on 02/20/2003 2:22:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Grampa Dave
I've been sending that ad to some key senators...Simple message. Look at this ad. When Estrada comes up for a vote, when not if, please vote YES.

69 posted on 02/20/2003 2:25:12 PM PST by votelife (24/7)
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To: votelife
If you haven't seen this ad, LOOK AT IT NOW!

http://www.thelatinocoalition.org/news/pdf/EstradaRollCallAd.pdf


70 posted on 02/20/2003 2:26:06 PM PST by votelife (24/7)
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To: votelife
It is very straight forward and has incredible impact.

I would to see Hispanics start distributing this to voting Hispanics across America.
71 posted on 02/20/2003 2:32:42 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Nelson's office has indicated he favors taking it to the vote, has not decided on support of Estrada. Graham has been rocovering from operation, answer on taking it to vote not available from staff.
72 posted on 02/20/2003 2:40:06 PM PST by AMNZ
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To: MEGoody
It really ticked me off that Frist and the other Repubs didn't force the Dems to keep talking 24 x 7 right through the break.

There was some specific talk about some senators' being targeted for assasination. That's why Frist let them go. Let's wait to see what happens when they reconvene.

73 posted on 02/20/2003 2:41:06 PM PST by alnick
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To: ken5050
Thanks for the info! I will do that! REally like his work too!
74 posted on 02/20/2003 2:43:27 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: votelife
For those who don't have or don't want a pdf reader, this is what the document has without the graphic parts.

The only controversy regarding Miguel Estrada is his race.

Senators have supported other non-Hispanic judicial nominees with less qualifications and experience. So the only difference here is that they can’t support an independent minded and well qualified Hispanic.

Not qualified? ABA disagrees.

The American Bar Association, which Democrat Senators referred to as the “gold standard” for judicial nominees unanimously rated Estrada “well qualified”, their highest possible rating.

Not enough experience? A double standard for Hispanics.

Five of the eight judges currently serving on the D.C. Circuit had no previous judicial experience when appointed. That includes two of President Clinton’s nominees, Merrick Garland, whose Justice Department record was quite similar to that of Miguel Estrada, and David Tatel. In addition, Judge Harry Edwards had no prior judicial experience when he was nominated by President Carter in 1979, and he was younger and had less experience than Estrada.

A conservative ideologue? Tell that to Clinton’s appointees.

Prominent Democrats including Ron Klain, the former Chief of Staff of Vice President Gore; Clinton’s Solicitor Generals Seth Waxman and Drew Days III; Robert Litt, Associate Deputy Attorney General in the Criminal Division; and Randolph Moss, Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel have all praised Miguel Estrada for his brilliance, compassion, fairness and respect for precedent. Would these prominent Democrats support a conservative ideologue? Of course not.

 Not Hispanic enough? That’s news to the Hispanic community.

Why then would the overwhelming majority of national Hispanic organizations enthusiastically support his nomination? That’s not only absurd, it’s insulting. It would be an ironic travesty of justice for any member of the US Senate — a body without a single Hispanic member — to vote against Mr. Estrada with the excuse that he is a Hispanic in name only or that he does not understand or represent the values of our community. Not a single membership-based Hispanic organization has opposed Estrada.

(Partial List of Hispanic Organizations Supporting Miguel Estrada) League of United Latin Americans Citizens, Hispanic National Bar Association, U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Association for the Advancement of Mexican Americans, The Latino Coalition, Mexican American Grocers Association, Hispanic Contractors Association, Interamerican College of Physicians & Surgeons, American G.I. Forum, Federation of Mayors of Puerto Rico, Casa De Sinaloense, Cuban American National Foundation, Hispanic Business Roundtable, Cuban Liberty Council, Congregacion Cristiana y Misionera “Fe y Alabanza”, MANA - a National Latina Organization, Nueva Esperanza, Cuban American Voters National Community, Puerto Rican American Foundations…
Paid for by The Latino Coalition. For more information please visit www.TheLatinoCoalition.com.

75 posted on 02/20/2003 2:54:35 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Thank you AndrewC, this Computer won't let me do that.
76 posted on 02/20/2003 2:56:22 PM PST by votelife (24/7)
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To: alnick
I have called my senators and encourage others to do the same. Make em feel the heat.

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121.
77 posted on 02/20/2003 3:30:36 PM PST by mwl1
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To: TRY ONE
"It only takes 51 votes.... We have 51 Pubbies and if a vote is taken, several RATS will also jump back on the ship...."

. . .we must match the Dems determination and more. Estrada must be confirmed and the Repubs must preservere.

78 posted on 02/20/2003 5:42:02 PM PST by cricket
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To: votelife
"After this much effort, if they get less than 40 votes, they might not have as much energy for the next big fight!"

We can hope that is the case. . .

79 posted on 02/20/2003 5:44:18 PM PST by cricket
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To: CA Conservative
IMHO, there is no class of folks who have done as much damage to the constitution as the government lawyers who have become judges. They seem, as a group, to lack any appreciation of any value to legal limits to government power.

It was Reagan and Nixon "conservative" appointees who, along with the liberals, created judicial rules of judicial review of agency action that have placed federal agencies essentially beyond the rule of law, particularly in "scientific" (environmental) matters. Thus here in the Northwest, we live under bogus Endangered Species Act listings that, for all practical purposes, are immune from judicial review.

80 posted on 02/20/2003 5:45:20 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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