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Cracks in the Estrada Filibuster?
The Hill ^ | 2/20/03 | Byron York

Posted on 02/20/2003 12:30:46 PM PST by votelife

BYRON YORK This is how the filibuster will fall to pieces

Right now the Senate debate over the appeals court nomination of Miguel Estrada seems hopelessly deadlocked. When Democrat Harry Reid of Nevada says, “It doesn't matter if there is one cloture vote or 50 cloture votes, we will all be together,” and when Republican Orrin Hatch or Utah says, “I'll stay here ‘til hell freezes over” -- well, things don't look good.

But beneath all the tough rhetoric -- and the lobbying campaigns of interest groups on both sides -- there's a relatively simple solution to the standoff. And it might emerge soon after lawmakers come back from the Presidents’ Day recess.

The two main Democratic objections to Estrada are that he has not fully answered questions about his legal views and that the Bush administration has refused to release internal Justice Department memos he wrote while he served in the Solicitor General’s office -- memos that Democrats contend might contain insights into Estrada's legal thinking.

“For the Senate to make an informed decision about Mr. Estrada's nomination, it is essential that we receive the information requested and answers to these basic legal questions,” Minority Leader Tom Daschle (S.D.) and ranking Judiciary Committee Democrat Patrick Leahy (Vt.) wrote in a Feb. 11 letter to the president.

The White House responded the next day with a 15-page, single-spaced letter from counsel Alberto Gonzales. Most news reports characterized it as a refusal of Daschle and Leahy's request — which it was — but missed the letter's between-the-lines suggestions for compromise.

On the issue of questions for Estrada, Gonzales noted that Daschle and Leahy cited just one inquiry that Estrada did not answer -- a question about his judicial role models. Gonzales wrote that Estrada in fact discussed that very issue in response to a written question from Sen. Richard Durbin (Ill.).

“ Beyond this one query, your letter does not pose any additional questions to [Estrada],” Gonzales said. “Additionally, neither of you has posed any written questions to Mr. Estrada in the more than three months since his all-day committee hearing.”

In that sentence is what appears to be a White House message to Democrats: You can ask more questions. There’s nothing in Gonzales’s letter to suggest that Estrada would not answer them.

On the second issue, the White House is standing firm against giving the internal Justice Department papers to the Senate. But Gonzales went out of his way to point out that some high-level Democrats have already seen the documents. The papers were, after all, written by Estrada during his time in the Clinton Justice Department. “It also is important to recognize that [Clinton] political appointees have read virtually all of the memoranda in question,” Gonzales wrote, “namely, the Democrat Solicitors General Drew Days, Walter Dellinger, and Seth Waxman.”

Gonzales also points out that none of those former officials have objected to Estrada's nomination. That’s another unspoken suggestion to Democrats: If you want to know more about the memos, ask the Democrats who have seen them. Days, Dellinger, and Waxman would most likely cite the same confidentiality concerns that led them to join other former Solicitors General in declaring release of the memos to be a bad idea, but they might be able say there was nothing in the papers that they found disturbing.

Republicans know there are some moderate Democrats who do not passionately oppose Estrada but who have so far stuck with the party in upholding the filibuster. Republicans also realize that, since hard-line Democratic leaders have made specific demands and vowed Estrada would not be confirmed unless the White House met those demands, those moderate Democrats will need some sort of Republican gesture they can use as cover to change their minds and stop supporting the filibuster.

That might already be happening. It has not been widely reported, but while the filibuster has been going on, Estrada has met with several Democratic senators, among them Mary Landrieu (La.), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Bill Nelson (Neb.), Herb Kohl (Wis.), and Thomas Carper (Del.). Presumably he has been answering some questions.

A few more such meetings, along with some reassuring words about the content of the Justice Department memos, and some moderate Democratic minds might change.

And in the end, there won't be 50 cloture votes, as Harry Reid suggested. There might not even be one. With four or five more moderate Democrats on board, Republicans will request, as they have several times already, that the Senate unanimously agree to end debate and give Estrada an up-or-down vote. So far, Democrats have refused every such request. But that might change soon.

Byron York is White House correspondent for National Review.


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To: deport
What was Estrada doing in the Clinton Justice Department? Maybe conservatives ought to want to see this material.
41 posted on 02/20/2003 1:17:06 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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To: votelife
It really ticked me off that Frist and the other Repubs didn't force the Dems to keep talking 24 x 7 right through the break. Thought the guy had some backbone. Guess I was wrong.
42 posted on 02/20/2003 1:18:47 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: cricket
"Would Estrada win a straight 'up/down' vote?"

It only takes 51 votes....
We have 51 Pubbies and if a vote is taken,
several RATS will also jump back on the ship....


43 posted on 02/20/2003 1:25:29 PM PST by TRY ONE (")
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To: Iconoclast2
The fact that he worked for Clinton IS concerning. Maybe he worked for Clinton for resume padding to help the confirmation. He is a good friend of Ann Coulter's and he is thanked in the front of her book Slander. And Coulter told Begala on Crossfire that "He'll turn over everything you love." So, I give Estrada the full benefit of the doubt. Bump for Estrada!
44 posted on 02/20/2003 1:26:08 PM PST by votelife (Free Miguel)
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To: chiefqc
FREEPers, I have created the ultimate Estrada activism thread. On it you will find ways to contact Senators, newsspapers, radio/tv people, organizations etc. Go there and help support Estrada. Keep the thread bumped until we get him confirmed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/847037/posts
45 posted on 02/20/2003 1:26:42 PM PST by votelife (Free Miguel)
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To: sr4402
. . . if democrats were to succeed it would politicize the Justice department and they know it. Their purpose, therefore, is to destroy the government of the United States.

This is just the latest manifestation of that goal. They'll keep trying.

46 posted on 02/20/2003 1:31:50 PM PST by mombonn (Never misunderestimate President Bush!)
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To: Iconoclast2
Orignally brought in under the Bush Admin and left in 1997 I think......


47 posted on 02/20/2003 1:35:05 PM PST by deport
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To: mombonn
We need Hispanics...writing Letters to the Editor in cities like Miami with high Hispanic population...complaining about "Democrats bigotry toward Hispanics"...

If enough did this, it should solve the problem.

By the way, Hispanics DID pass blacks as the largest minority in the US.....recently announced in the media.

48 posted on 02/20/2003 1:37:58 PM PST by Gopher Broke
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To: MEGoody
It really ticked me off that Frist and the other Repubs didn't force the Dems to keep talking 24 x 7 right through the break. Thought the guy had some backbone. Guess I was wrong.

You obviously haven't been playing close attention, because this issue has been discussed several times in various threads here.

Frist recessed the session for several reasons. First, because McConnell was recovering from surgery, and at least one other seator had a wife undergoing surgery, Frist was not assured of having the majority needed to keep the Senate in session in the event the Dems moved to adjourn. Second, and most important, he wanted to use this week to do just what the Republicans have been doing - building opposition to a filibuster within the Hispanic community. That is why you saw the news conference yesterday by those Hispanic groups supporting Estrada. That is why ads opposing the filibuster have been appearing on Hispanic radio and TV stations, and in Spanish publications. That is why you saw GWB appear on Telemundo to talk about the nomination. They are trying hard to prevent the Democrats from establishing a precedent by forcing this to a full-blown filibuster. If this week allows the Republicans to peel away a few more vulnerable Dems, the whole thing will fall apart by the time they get back into session, and they can proceed with a vote. If not, then they can go into an all-out filibuster and win by wearing down the Dems.

This may not be the way you would like to see things done, but by all of the stories we are seeing, it looks like it may be working, and that is what matters.

49 posted on 02/20/2003 1:41:58 PM PST by CA Conservative
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Just sent a letter (a real letter not an email) to Russ Feingold

Good luck with any response. My husband and I throughout the years have penned many letters to our leftist Senator (both "real" letters and emails) and the only response we have ever recieved from him was the one email back to my husband stating that he was sorry, but he only had enough time to respond to his own constituents. Mind you we live in Mid Wisconsin. My husband promptly sent him a state map with our town highlighted, and asked him when Waupaca had ceceded from Wisconsin. He never replied.

I also once got an automated response saying that he had recieved my email, but nothing more. He is worthless.

50 posted on 02/20/2003 1:42:23 PM PST by codercpc
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To: votelife
That is why I appealed to his sense of fairness. He may be just another lyin' commie craphead but at times has gone against the leadership. Also he was not exactly following the RAT line on impeachment when the Abomination was on trial.
51 posted on 02/20/2003 1:43:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Islame has had its day.)
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To: Iconoclast2
easy...working for the Solicitor General...like Bork was once...it has little to do with ideological background.
52 posted on 02/20/2003 1:44:59 PM PST by Keith
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To: MEGoody
Not only are you wrong but can't see the value of these idiots displaying their idiocy for all to see. Let them filibuster until the cows come home. It will not help them.
53 posted on 02/20/2003 1:45:02 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Islame has had its day.)
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To: votelife
The fact that he worked for Clinton IS concerning.

Estrada was a career lawyer in the Soliciter General's office, not a political appointee. He also worked in the SG's office during Bush I. And I am sure you would find some things in the briefs he wrote during that time that you would not like. Just keep in mind, it was his job to represent and defend the position of his client, in this case, the Clinton Administration, not to argue his own beliefs and principles.

54 posted on 02/20/2003 1:45:19 PM PST by CA Conservative
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To: CA Conservative
Ann Coulter supports and knows him. Good enough for me.
55 posted on 02/20/2003 1:47:14 PM PST by votelife (Free Miguel)
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To: MEGoody
I think the terror scare regarding assassinations of congresscritters made him do it. Just MHO, of course.
56 posted on 02/20/2003 1:47:32 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: MEGoody
It really ticked me off that Frist and the other Repubs didn't force the Dems to keep talking 24 x 7 right through the break. Thought the guy had some backbone.


One question.... Where will the 51 Senators come from when the democrats call for a quorum? If you can supply 51 Senators for a Quorum call then you can keep the senate in session, if not..... then it's adjourn or recess...
57 posted on 02/20/2003 1:49:59 PM PST by deport
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To: codercpc
Interesting. I have written him several times and have received responses twice. On those occassions I also wrote dozens of Senators and at least half of them responded. Some were totally canned and some were specific responses. Monyhan was always good for a thoughtful response.

Not that I care whether I do or not this time.
58 posted on 02/20/2003 1:56:19 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Islame has had its day.)
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To: codercpc
the only response we have ever recieved from him was the one email back to my husband stating that he was sorry, but he only had enough time to respond to his own constituents.

Mind you we live in Mid Wisconsin. My husband promptly sent him a state map with our town highlighted, and asked him when Waupaca had ceceded from Wisconsin. He never replied.

LOL.

Your husband has quite a sense of humor.

My Florida senators usually do answer a personalized letter, but I know it was written by their staff.

59 posted on 02/20/2003 1:56:37 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Iconoclast2
What was Estrada doing in the Clinton Justice Department?

He was??? That doesn't sound very Conservative.

60 posted on 02/20/2003 1:59:00 PM PST by FITZ
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