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List of known Sami Al-Arian defenders with direct quotes
Re-instate Sami Al-Arian Petition ^
| Thursday 02/20/03
Posted on 02/20/2003 9:45:15 AM PST by alisasny
Salon.com "The prime-time smearing of Sami Al-Arian By pandering to anti-Arab hysteria, NBC, Fox News, Media General and Clear Channel radio disgraced themselves -- and ruined an innocent professor's life." Salon Eric Boehlert January 19, 2002
Please add all known defenders with quotes they made in defense of Sami AL-Arian that you can find so we have a record of all of them.
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To: mabelkitty
(revised) Anybody that avoids the core of the argument and focuses instead on "freedoms", "racism", and "victims" and you KNOW they are Muslim Extremists.
To: mabelkitty
I know.
But what the heck were Camachee and the other guy talking about?
It wasn't about academic freedom at all.
It was about a professor getting caught out there, finally.
And there being proof.
Camachee seemed to want to equate the canning and arrest of Al Arian with us going after Saddam, like that is equatable.
I dunno, I guess my years in the military have made me forget, to a point, the thought processes of some of my fellow citizens. (As well as trashing my once neat handwiriting..)
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:22:31 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<=====Chuckling in glee.)
To: Catspaw
It is a lie that North Korea has any missiles, she claimed, basing her logic on the fact that since there were people dying of starvation there, how could North Korea have any money for missiles?I bet she's embarssed!
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:23:10 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Darksheare
They're just spreading the word.
We have one in Cleveland whose buddy just got busted with a large load of drugs coming in from Canada. Meth for Islam, don't you know
Anyway, the guy is as good as toast. This "community leader" starts the same thing "victim", "racist", the boy works in my Arab Charity, etc.
Same pattern, same religion, different cities.
To: Howlin
These people NEVER get embarassed (see: Clinton, William Jefferson and Clinton, Hillary Rodham).
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:29:24 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Catspaw
basing her logic on the fact that since there were people dying of starvation there, how could North Korea have any money for missiles? That just blows my mind.
According to her logic, if Saddam Hussein has WMD, then the people must be fat and happy, which begs the question why do they keep saying children are dying in Iraq?
146
posted on
02/20/2003 1:31:34 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
Well, all Saddam has to do is melt down a gold faucet or two & the kids in Iraq would be fat & sassy.
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:37:21 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Jack Stephens
Fundraising for Islamic Jihad and Hamas is academic freedman?
Setting up front groups recruiting IJ agents is academic freedom?
Training the future head of operations for Islamic Jihad is covered by academic freedom?
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:40:54 PM PST
by
rmlew
To: TLBSHOW
Karl Rove agrees with Norquist.
As for Grover, he is being paid by the Saudis and Abu Dahbi.
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posted on
02/20/2003 1:47:07 PM PST
by
rmlew
To: rmlew
150
posted on
02/20/2003 1:49:14 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: alisasny
Here's some of the background (I found references dating to 1998 that refer to FBI suspicions of this guy) on Sami:
Other representatives of the founding leadership of Islamic Jihad also found a safe haven in the United States during the late 1980s and throughout the 1990s. They include Sami Al-'Arian,85 currently a professor of engineering at the University of South Florida,86 who is presently under investigation for his ties to Islamic Jihad.87 The investigation is focused on determining whether funds that were raised by Al-'Arian in the United States were used to carry out Islamic Jihad terrorist attacks in Israel, especially the April 9, 1995, IJMP suicide bombing in which an American college student, Alisa Flatow, was murdered.88
In addition to being one of the founders of the movements, Al-'Arian is reported to be the organizer and a member of Islamic Jihad's Majlis Al-Shura, or Consultative Council, the organization's governing body.89 Al-'Arian also incorporated the Islamic Concern Project, the umbrella organization for the Islamic Committee for Palestine in 1988, as well as the World Islam and Studies Enterprise, which was incorporated in 1991.90 On November 20, 1995, Al-'Arian's home and office at the University of South Florida were searched by Federal agents who were investigating WISE and the ICP as front organizations for Islamic Jihad.91 After September 11, Al-Arian was suspended from his teaching position at USF.92
At one of the Islamic Committee for Palestine rallies from the early 1990s that was recorded on videotape, Al-'Arian declared, "Death to Israel," and referred to the "sons of Israel," i.e., Jews, as "monkeys and pigs."93 According to an FBI affidavit, in another videotape Al-'Arian was introduced at another conference by Fawaz Al-Damra, the imam of the Islamic Center of Cleveland, as the head of the International Committee for Palestine, which he described as an "active arm of the Islamic Jihad Movement of Palestine." According to the transcript, Al-Damra told a crowd of supporters as he introduced Al-'Arian, "We like to call it the Islamic Committee for Palestine here for security reasons."94
At still another conference Al-'Arian called for God to have mercy on the souls of Islamic Jihad operatives, whom he referred to as "the martyrs." At another event, Al-'Arian stood by as Al-Damra engaged in a fund-raising effort on behalf of Islamic Jihad. Al-Damra appealed to the audience invoking the name of an Islamic Jihad terrorist who had murdered four Israelis: "Donate to the Islamic Jihad. Nidal Zalum from the Islamic Jihad held a dagger and stabbed four of the Jews in the courtyard of Al-Haram Al-Qudsi."95 According to the transcript, Damra later added, "One of them would leave his house with a knife to stab the Jews-twelve Jews-after the events of the Gulf War. Brothers, the intifada calls you. Five hundred dollars! Who would add to five hundred dollars?"96
On February 1, 1995, Al-'Arian wrote a letter to an individual as a representative of the ICP requesting funds on behalf of the families of two Islamic Jihad suicide bombers. The two had carried out a double suicide bombing at Beit Lid in central Israel on January 22, 1995.
In the letter, Al-'Arian lauded the attack, saying, "The latest operation carried out by the two mujahideen [holy warriors], who were martyred for the sake of God, is the best evidence of what the believing few can do in the face of Arab and Islamic collapse before the Zionist enemy and of the still-burning firebrand of faith, steadfastness, and challenge." He went on to make an appeal for funds to assist "the jihad effort in Palestine," and specifically mentioned the Islamic Jihad Movement and Hamas as representing that effort. The letter described the families of the mujahideen as having left behind large families in need of financial assistance, and went on to describe Islamic Jihad as being "in a state of great misfortune and has nothing." Al-'Arian further explained that as a consequence of the situation, the IJMP "cannot fulfill its responsibilities toward the martyrs and prisoners." He concluded, "I call upon you to try to extend true support to the jihad effort in Palestine so that operations such as these can continue."97
Another of the founding leaders of the movement, Bashir Al-Nafi',98 worked for WISE99 and was a researcher at the International Institute of Islamic Thought in Virginia. In 1996, Al-Nafi' was named in an INS investigator's affidavit as being linked to Islamic Jihad. The affidavit stated that an unidentified "confidential informant" had identified Al-Nafi' as a "significant leading member" of the Islamic Jihad and quoted a Jordanian newspaper as listing him among those considered to succeed the founding leader of the movement, Fat'hi Al-Shiqaqi.100 Al-Nafi' was denied political asylum and deported from the United States to the United Kingdom for visa violations in 1996, where he resides today.101
Another individual reportedly linked to Islamic Jihad activities in the United States is Mazen Al-Najjár. Al-Najjár was a founding member of the ICP and the executive director of WISE after the departure of Ramadan 'Abdallah Shallah. Agents of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in sworn testimony have described al-Najjár as "a mid-level operative of a terrorist front group."102 According to an Israeli intelligence official, Al-Najjár allegedly served as a conduit for communications between IJMP terrorists in the West Bank and Gaza and the organization's headquarters in Damascus, Syria. In 1994, a year before WISE and the ICP were closed, Islamic Jihad terrorists captured by Israel were carrying slips of paper with Al-Najjár's telephone number written on them. They were instructed to call Al-Najjár's telephone number to report on Islamic Jihad attacks.103 Al-Najjár and other leaders of Islamic Jihad remain the focus of an ongoing federal investigation into the activities of Islamic Jihad and other terrorist organizations in the United States.
Following the suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, additional scrutiny has been applied to terror activities that reportedly took place in the United States during the past decade. On March 21, 2002, the FBI raided sixteen offices and homes104 in Northern Virginia as part of Operation Green Quest, a federal counterterrorism investigation geared toward cutting off funds to terrorist organizations. The search warrant names: "PIJ (Palestinian Islamic Jihad), Hamas, Al-Qa'ida, WISE, ICP, Sami Al-'Arian, Basheer Nafi, Mazen Al-Najar [sic], Ramallah Shallah [sic] [i.e., Ramadan 'Abdallah Shallah], Khalil Skikaki [sic] [i.e, Al-Shiqaqi], Sheikh Odeh [Al-'Awda], Sheikh Rahman [i.e., 'Umar Abd Al-Rahman], Usama Bin Ladin, and any other individual or entity designated as a terrorist by the President of the United States, the United States Department of Treasury, or the Secretary of State."105 Included among the organizations is the International Institute for Islamic Thought (IIIT) in Herndon, Virginia, one of a number of charitable organizations and businesses that were established in Virginia by the Al-Rajhi banking family of Saudi Arabia.106 Several of the organizations, including the IIIT, are also linked to a financier named M. Yaqub Mirza.107
Through its activities in Western countries such as the United Kingdom and the United States, the Islamic Jihad demonstrated its versatility to adapt and compartmentalize itself by operating the second tier of its leadership outside of its declared theater of operations in the West Bank and Gaza. By operating in Western countries, the organization was able to protect its leadership and establish a communications system that took advantage of the freedoms that Western nations guarantee to their citizens. From the United States and the United Kingdom, the leadership of the organization was able to direct the activities of the IJMP from afar by communicating via telephone, fax machine, and computers, and allegedly was able to raise funds for the terrorist activities of the organization as well.
Conclusion
The historical significance of the Islamic Jihad was its establishment of the first Palestinian Islamist militant movement in Gaza. The movement was the first to bring pro-Khomeini Islamist militancy to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, but the repercussions of its establishment and existence over the past twenty-two years have caused a ripple effect that goes far beyond the actual numbers and political power of Islamic Jihad itself.
The first effect of its presence caused the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood to create its own Islamist militant organization, Hamas, in 1989. The metamorphosis of the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood into Hamas proved to be a watershed event that foreshadowed the further Islamization of Palestinian society. The subsequent radicalization of the Muslim Brotherhood's network of mosques and social welfare institutions throughout Gaza and the West Bank provided Hamas with an unprecedented opportunity to indoctrinate its followers from kindergarten age through adulthood. As a result, in recent opinion polls Hamas enjoys a level of political support nearly equal to that of Yasir Arafat's Fatah organization.108
The Islamist indoctrination activities of Hamas, and, more recently, of the Palestinian Authority, have caused a far-reaching Islamization of Palestinian society, where Islamist terminology has now become part of mainstream Palestinian discourse. Responding to the Islamist challenge posed by Hamas, in 2001 Yasir Arafat's Palestinian Authority revisited its prepeace process history and created its own militant organization patterned after its two Islamist predecessors, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. The Al-Aqsa Brigades, however, have added a new dimension to the competition between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority by introducing the use of female suicide bombers.
Islamic Jihad has also made a continuing impact on financial assistance for the Palestinian cause. Among Palestinians, Islamic Jihad is responsible for introducing the phenomenon of Iranian financial and military support for the Palestinian cause. Islamic Jihad, then Hamas, and now the Palestinian Authority are all recipients of Iran's financial support for their terrorist activities. While the phenomenon of Iranian military support for the Palestinian Authority via arms shipments would have been anathema several years ago, today the Palestinian Authority has been co-opted to the Iranian political camp. In summation, in spite of the fact that the Islamic Jihad's Khomeinist ideology has remained a peripheral factor in Palestinian politics, its introduction of Iranian influence has and will continue to have a lasting effect on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and on Palestinian society.
June 28, 2002
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02/20/2003 2:01:32 PM PST
by
Eva
To: mabelkitty
EEEK.
"Meth for Islam"... Somehow, this got me to laugh...
I'm not sure if I was supposed to.
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posted on
02/20/2003 2:36:16 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<=====?????)
To: Darksheare
Either way, we are correct. There are apologists and appeasers everywhere. The Romans were right; salt the earth and obliterate your enemies or they will come back to haunt you.
To: rmlew
I asked him the same thing, basically.
He never answered.
Guess he couldn't refute the facts, so like a good liberal, he ignored the facts.
Check out 'Camachee' as well for some good laughs at idiotic drivel.
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posted on
02/20/2003 2:40:18 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<====Wondering how Liberals are born. *Hatched!*)
To: Beck_isright
Yeah, but does America have the intestinal fortitude to do that anymore, I wonder.
(I was in the military two years ago, and my unit didn't have the guts for it. Unfortunately. 'Course it was commanded by a CLINTONISTA.)
I'm still boggling at some of the appeasers flawgic shown here. (Flawgic. Flawed 'logic')
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posted on
02/20/2003 2:43:19 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<====Wondering how Liberals are born. *Hatched!*)
To: Jack Stephens; Camachee
IF Al Arian isn't blameless, then he's where he deserves to be, right?
So why are you defending him?
You also ignored the FACT that he's a terrorist supporter/terrorist in the HAMAS group. (Proven. Just look over the posts in the thread. You can read. Or, at least, you're supposed to be able to read. One never knows these days with the education system as it sits. Especially since 'tolerance' of everything perverse is more important than teaching critical thinking skills.)
Should terrorists be given a free ticket into our country to do as they please under the guise of 'academic freedom'?
You never answer direct questions, I noticed.
Just like Camachee.
Camachee... You tossed an insult out there first, so by your statement, your argument is weak.
How about this: Those who support terrorism and teh MURDER of innocents should be rounded up and put on trial as accessories to, or perpetrators of murder.
AS WELL AS executiopnn according to their own rules under ISLAM. (Beheading with a sword, in case you didn't know.)
That's fair, and impartial. And respects their beliefs.
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posted on
02/20/2003 2:53:24 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<====Wondering how Liberals are born. *Hatched!*)
To: Darksheare
GW1 participant here and still pissed we didn't go north and finish this nonsense then. And we do have what it takes. It's just going to cost alot of American dead though to find that fortitude and piss everyone off enough again. Sami meanwhile will get to visit Bubba and the boys for at least the next 50 years if he refuses to rat out his buddies.
To: Beck_isright
Wringing my hands at the second half, cringing at the first half. I fear that we're right about that.
I fear that some peopel will only learn once they bury those they love, I fear that others will only learn when children die in massive numbers. (HAMAS supports killing children, as often and as many as possible. Al Arian {Aryan?} has been linked to Hamas.)
God help us if that happens.
God have mercy on the fools who'd let it happen again.
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posted on
02/20/2003 3:12:48 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<====Wondering how Liberals are born. *Hatched!*)
To: alisasny; coteblanche; FreeCanuckistan
I don't have a quote
but the CAUT
(Canadian Association of University Teachers)
protested the Suspension of al-Arian
and there was a page one story
in their newspaper
supporting his cause.
(By the way,
my impression is that al-Arian was not fired
but suspended with full pay.
Does anyone know?)
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posted on
02/20/2003 3:18:49 PM PST
by
Allan
To: Allan
Well... considering Al arian is under arrest, it may be moot if he was fired or suspended.
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posted on
02/20/2003 3:22:04 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(<====Wondering how Liberals are born. *Hatched!*)
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