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A World of Enemies -- is It All Reagan's Fault?
Toogood Reports ^ | 19 February 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 02/19/2003 12:07:28 PM PST by mrustow

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Call me a Cold War sentimentalist — but smile when you say it. I never felt so alive, as when I was passing through Checkpoint Charlie at the Berlin Wall, my heart in my throat, between free, West Berlin, and its garrisoned sister city in the East.

And how I lived, with a few American dollars in my pocket, on the other side of The Wall. Two weeks ago, on Joe Millionaire, I saw golddiggers and the ditchdigger spend nights in the sort of four-star hotels I once stayed in. In June, 1989, just months before The Wall fell, I ate chateaubriand in, and stayed at the Hotel Gellert, Budapest's most luxurious digs. The Gellert even had pissoirs fit for a king. Our room had a balcony overlooking the Danube. (I also got awoken from my dreams the next morning, at 6 a.m., by the screeching of streetcar wheels.) The Germans have a phrase, "wie Gott in Paris leben" — to "live like G-d in Paris."

Today, with the influx of dollars in the East, and attendant inflation, I could sell my wife and son to slavers, and still couldn't afford the fare to Budapest, and a night in the Gellert.

Alright, so maybe you're no beef eater, the Danube is only the title of a banal waltz, and as far as you're concerned, Germany is just "Old Europe." But you too have reason to miss The Wall.

With America poised to send hundreds of thousands of men in harm's way in Iraq, it is understandable that there should be a heated debate as to the merits of going to war, even if most commentators are now resigned to war. And yet, much of the debate has been dominated by false historical assumptions. The truth is not only intrinsically valuable, but in matters of war and peace, of great utility.

People usually seek to explain the fall of the Soviet Union and the East Bloc, via either of two competing theories. A theory popular in the U.S., especially among Republicans, holds that Ronald Reagan's 1980s arms buildup forced the Soviets to compete with us, a competition that eventually exhausted their economy, and caused their system to collapse. By contrast, the theory of choice among many American leftists and foreigners is that the Soviet Union and East Bloc were brought down by a bloodless, popular revolution – what fans (among them, journalist Paul Berman) of Czechoslovakian dissident playwright and contemporary President of the Czech Republic Vaclav Havel and his group, Charter 77, called the former Czechoslovakia's "Velvet Revolution."

During the 1980s, Ronald Reagan engineered the biggest peacetime arms buildup ever. On June 12, 1987 in West Berlin, he told the Soviet premier – thanks to speechwriter Peter Robinson – "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" And beginning in June, 1989, less than six months after Reagan handed over the reins of power to George Herbert Walker Bush, the world saw the biggest liberation, in terms of sheer numbers, in history. What's not to like?

If the conventional wisdom in the U.S. is correct, and Ronald Reagan's arms buildup caused the collapse of the Soviet Union, then Reagan must get both the credit and the blame for today's world order, or lack thereof. With all due respect, however, I don't think he deserves either. Reagan cared deeply about the millions oppressed by Soviet totalitarianism, but he did not cause The Wall to come down.

Alternatively, we are to believe that, inspired by a group of poets and artists who signed petitions and wrote editorials, in 1989, the Czechoslovakian people "shouted down" their communist rulers, and young East Germans simply decided to tear down the Berlin Wall. So, for 44 years, the Czechoslovakians and East Germans (not to mention all the other nationalities who suffered under the boot of Soviet terror) had needed only to mass in the street, and start shouting! Think of all of the missed opportunities! Such silliness will not convince any sober person above the age of consent, much less anyone familiar with the history of Soviet communism.

It was Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev that caused The Wall to fall, but not because Ronald Reagan had succeeded in converting him to the cause of freedom, and not because Gorbachev sought to end the Soviet Union and the East Bloc. Rather, Gorbachev was a vain, confused man. Dreaming of being a beloved dictator, he sought to be both the dictator and the liberator of his people. As Stalin, Hitler, and Mao had already shown, however, the way to become a beloved dictator, is through murdering millions of one's own people, and terrorizing the rest. Most of the citizens whom a tyrant has not yet murdered, will learn to fear him, others will learn to love him, and some will feel both emotions for him. Witness the nostalgia for the "certainty" and "security" Stalin supposedly provided that is still widespread in "free" Russia, and the former Soviet Republics and East Bloc nations.

Gorbachev was a tyrant who stopped tyrannizing. In a tyranny, such a man is soon out of a job, if not dead. Gorbachev expected the Soviets to embrace him as their leader. Instead, they no longer recognized him as leader, but as the cause of a vacuum in leadership. Soon enough, Gorby was an ex-leader. In 1991, his resignation as Premier of the Soviet Union was redundant, since as many observers have commented, he was the ruler of a nation that no longer existed. Gorbachev is lucky to still be alive.

Had any other Soviet leader been in power on November 9, 1989, the East German border guards would simply have shot all of the protesters who massed at The Wall. But Gorbachev's confusion had spread west, and immobilized the East German apparat, as well, and so instead of shooting demonstrators, the East German authorities opened the border crossings.

In the summer of 1989, East Germans engaged in mass demonstrations, action that would have been suicidal before Gorbachev. They also began leaving the country by the tens of thousands for Hungary, which they could use to enter free, neutral Austria. (It did not help that the Soviets' man in East Berlin, Premier Erich Honecker, was then ailing, but the role of the East German premier was to follow orders. The Soviets always called the shots, when it came to the border.)

Hungary had long had a unique status as the freest country in the East Bloc, where some people had private property, and as a result, the standard of living was the highest in the communist world.

During the early 1980s, while visiting East Berlin, I recall a pervasive climate of fear. In September, 1980, wandering through a pedestrian tunnel, two machine gun-wielding, East German "Vopos" ("Volkspolizisten" – people's police, though they looked more like soldiers than cops) stopped me. "Ausweis, bitte!" one commanded me. (Papers, please!) The point was to intimidate me – and it worked.

By contrast, the first time I visited Budapest, in spring of 1982, I was wandering around with a map, obviously lost, when two machine gun-wielding, Hungarian policemen stopped me. These guys, however, were trying to help. I tried to communicate with them, but they spoke neither German nor English, and my Hungarian was limited to "please" and "thank you," and "yes" and "no." Before I'd gotten very far, a forty-something Hungarian couple barged in, and started telling jokes and yucking it up with the policemen. I wandered away, without them even missing me.

In East Germany, the locals did not yuck it up with policemen, and foreigners did not wander away from the police unnoticed. (Between 1980 and 1989, I visited East Germany and Hungary three times each.)

Oddly, even Gorbachev has supported the popular revolution theory. In November, he told the Berliner Morgenpost (my translation), "Basically, the entire development showed that the Honecker Regime had blown any credit it had with the people."

So, it was all a legitimacy crisis? So, Stalin enjoyed great legitimacy with the Soviet people, as did Honecker and his predecessors with the East German people in earlier years? Only if legitimacy comes out of the barrel of a machine gun.

If my interpretation is correct, liberty arose in Eastern Europe, and chaos elsewhere, as a fluke.

Am I knocking Reagan? Not at all. But even hindsight is often blind.

While those who identify themselves as conservatives are the first to speak of "the law of unintended consequences" regarding their opponents' proposals, many of them put on blinders when it comes to their own plans.

It was the fall of the Soviet Union that opened the Pandora's Box of Islam, and led directly to today's world, in which America finds herself beset by enemies, particularly Islamic terrorists. As the saying goes, be careful what you pray for, because your prayers just might be answered.

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Nicholas at adddda@earthlink.net .


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: barfalert; berlinwall; ccrm; charter77; coldwar; czechoslovakia; gorbachev; hungary; presidentreagan; reagan; revisionism; ronaldreagan; teardownthiswall; vaclavhavel; velvetrevolution
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To: mrustow
Do you think that killing 13 people counts as a slaughter in the context of Soviet history? A traditional Soviet response would have seen 1300 slaughtered.

Soviet response: 13 deaths is a tragedy, 1300 is a statistic.

61 posted on 02/19/2003 3:58:52 PM PST by weikel ( Ad space here rates are reasonable)
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To: mrustow
If my interpretation is correct, liberty arose in Eastern Europe, and chaos elsewhere, as a fluke.

Your interpretation is not correct. Liberty is not a fluke for most people, but a human condition longed for by the human spirit. The USSR, as any dictatorship, could only suppress the human desire to be free if it's authority could be imposed by force (as you point out). Challenging them in Berlin and around the world while flaunting their economic plight was hardly a fluke. Afghanistan was a dismal failure for the USSR. With each challenge, they came closer to collapse, not stronger. Certainly Reagan can be credited for a decade of opposition that pushed them to the edge of collapse.

The major failing in the analysis is this "rise" of chaos. If this is to mean the Islamic terrorism, please do not cheapen the lives lost to terrorism over the last 30 years by beginning the body count on 9/11. It was spectacular, but not thier first attempt. They continue to kill and maime civilians around the world, and it's only mundane if you're not located near the latest bomb blast.

The only chaos now is the balance of power struggles of the post Cold War. It may seem chaotic in everyday life, but in the annuls of history it has been quite mild and orderly.

Why do "they" hate us. Well, some of "them" don't hate us and some never liked us. No nation has been universally loved by everyone. And every nation that has held the #1 spotlight has attracted it's enemies - often deservedly.

No flukes. To try to tie these two forces (communism and Islamic terrorism) together to artificially propose an exchange of power, or cause and effect in timing, is ludicrous.

62 posted on 02/19/2003 4:07:19 PM PST by optimistically_conservative (We're approaching the one-year anniversary of Democrats accusing Bush of a "rush" to war.)
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To: Paul Ross
Thanks Paul, it was a long article, very verbose. Its revisionism was almost confusing, but you have to ask the author that. It doesn't answer another question.

If Reagan's arms buildup and lack of intimidation did not cause the economy to collapse from a failure to compete, how did restraint, or cowardice if you follow the author, from killing protestors? We didn't kill tons of Anticapitalist, Anti American protestors over the weekend and last time I checked America was fine.

I could run outside real quick and check but I'm pretty sure about that.
63 posted on 02/19/2003 4:09:46 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Reagan must have done alot of good to be hated by the left this bad)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
If Reagan's arms buildup and lack of intimidation did not cause the economy to collapse from a failure to compete, how did restraint, or cowardice if you follow the author, from killing protestors?

Nice conundrum for mrstrow. He probably won't even get the logical application.

64 posted on 02/19/2003 4:26:22 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA; mrustow
All:

If anyone is interested in this subject, I recommend reading Victory: The Secret Strategy of the Reagan administration by Peter Schwietzer. It documents thoroughly the efforts by the Reagan adminsitration in the economic field to cause the collapse of the Soviet Union. Ignoring for a minute the Reagan arms build up, there were efforts to get Soviet loans reclassified at higher interest rates, denying Soviets pipeline technology (which America owns almost all patents for) which was equivalent to denying the Soviets foeign currency, supplying the Soviets with false computer hardware/soiftware so their backwards computer efforts would be doomed to collapse, no matter how mightily they toiled, or how much technology they tried to steal, and dozens of other economic efforts.

The author of the article is seriously uniformed, and a simple session with this book would have corrected his ignorance.
65 posted on 02/19/2003 4:30:11 PM PST by Archimedes2000
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
We didn't kill tons of Anticapitalist, Anti American protestors over the weekend and last time I checked America was fine.
I could run outside real quick and check but I'm pretty sure about that.

Uh, no need, but you may want to check this out:

A lot of them were skewered and slayed by some incisive interview questions...and shown to be clinically brain-dead

66 posted on 02/19/2003 4:31:23 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Here's a link to Peter's book. A great read, check it out.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0871136333/qid=1045701103/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-2838071-5671051?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
67 posted on 02/19/2003 4:33:18 PM PST by Archimedes2000
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To: Archimedes2000
That book does look great. I bet all this history being written by the victors has got to be just grating to Anti-Nuke protestors of the 80's.

As for that great Brain Terminal piece Paul linked to, I talked with my friend who's a videographer and editor and we decided we absolutely HAVE to go out there and find out what these people "think" like this. Since it wouldn't be the first time we went to a protest and were a smart-a$$es to these empty-headed weirdos, it won't be hard.
68 posted on 02/19/2003 4:57:45 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Reagan must have done alot of good to be hated by the left this bad)
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To: mrustow
So, your intelligence is soo grand smart ass, you wouldn't know that a person could change their user name and profile after 3 years. Next time yoy be a wise ass and try to bully new people (which I am not) pull your head out.
69 posted on 02/19/2003 5:39:58 PM PST by Porterville
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To: mrustow
Another, thing flamer, you are so weak you don't even fly your flag of your state; weak sooo weak, you must be a little guy 5 feet, but with a big 4x4; I know your type. Come on little man, come out come out where ever you are.
70 posted on 02/19/2003 5:43:34 PM PST by Porterville
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To: mrustow
As ugly as the world seems to be today it is an immensely better, safer, freer world than it was in 1980.
71 posted on 02/19/2003 5:49:56 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (I don't believe in hyphenating Americans)
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To: mrustow
>>It was the fall of the Soviet Union that opened the Pandora's Box of Islam

Right!! And which do we want. Or what's next? There will always be whack-o's...we need to keep the bombs from them.
72 posted on 02/19/2003 6:30:10 PM PST by The Raven (Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
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To: Porterville
So, your intelligence is soo grand smart ass, you wouldn't know that a person could change their user name and profile after 3 years. Next time yoy be a wise ass and try to bully new people (which I am not) pull your head out.

Gee, P., I'm sorry that you feel bullied by anyone who displays an IQ over 10. You should have left me believing you're a newbie. At least then you could say, "Well, I'm new to this sort of thing, and having just graduated in December from elementary school (had to take an extra semester), I don't know what big words like 'communist' and 'anti-communist' mean."

73 posted on 02/19/2003 6:57:30 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Paul Ross
If Reagan's arms buildup and lack of intimidation did not cause the economy to collapse from a failure to compete, how did restraint, or cowardice if you follow the author, from killing protestors?

Nice conundrum for mrstrow. He probably won't even get the logical application.

Logical application, h--k, I don't even get the grammatical application!

74 posted on 02/19/2003 7:04:17 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
You shouldn't post if you can't take criticism from others, your just to sensitive. Well that’s okay, next time I'll make sure that I will reply, "What a great post!!! Gee you're such a smart man."
75 posted on 02/19/2003 7:51:32 PM PST by Porterville
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To: mrustow
You shouldn't post if you can't take criticism from others, your just to sensitive. Well that’s okay, next time I'll make sure that I will reply, "What a great post!!! Gee you're such a smart man."
76 posted on 02/19/2003 7:51:35 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Porterville
Another, thing flamer, you are so weak you don't even fly your flag of your state; weak sooo weak, you must be a little guy 5 feet, but with a big 4x4; I know your type. Come on little man, come out come out where ever you are.

You just slay me, baby! Now that you've outed me as not having posted my state flag, I'll just have to hang myself! Now, how did you ever figure out how to register once, let alone twice? Or do the Robinsons have a "Visiting Cyber Nurse Service," with techies who come into the homes of "intellectually challenged" wannabe FReepers, and register them? Be sure to thank the literacy volunteer who reads the screen and posts your, er, utterances for you.

77 posted on 02/19/2003 9:02:23 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Hey man, you’re the one who put the crappy article up to begin with; man that was a stupid article. You have your tin foil hats stacked in the closet or what?? I know your manhood is locked in there.
78 posted on 02/19/2003 9:10:05 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Porterville
You shouldn't post if you can't take criticism from others, your just to sensitive. Well that’s okay, next time I'll make sure that I will reply, "What a great post!!! Gee you're such a smart man."

Yes, you do that. I'll be looking forward to reading that.

79 posted on 02/19/2003 9:25:45 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
So what sorority are you in??? You a Tri-Delt?? Or a Kappa Kappa Kappa??? I like sorority girls, except you tend to get fat after thirty.
80 posted on 02/19/2003 9:31:05 PM PST by Porterville
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