Verdict in German 9-11 Trial: Guilty - 15 years for first 9/11 accused

Wednesday, February 19, 2003

[OldPossum]

Well, I on the other hand, do blame Germany for their court system. Much too lenient. Here, he likely would have received the death sentence and deserved it!

[Michael81Dus]

Article 1 Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany: "The dignity of every human is untouchable." According to our highest Court, that does also mean, that all life-long-prisoners have the right to get free once. The Court said, the term should usually be no longer than 15 years. If the convicted poses to be a threat for the society, he may stay life-long in a mental hospital. That´s all we can do. The death penalty is abolished.

[Catspaw]

Then we can blame our court system for failing to give John Walker Lindh a long enough sentence for fighting with the Taliban against the US. I wasn't satisfied with that sentence and I'm not satisfied with this sentence.

Fact is, there is no sentence harsh enough to satisfy me, no matter what the court system or the country. Nothing can atone for the murders of over 3000 people.

[SpinyNorman]

Hmmm, 1.8 days per person. I guess life in Germany is pretty cheap since WWII. Another reason to get our people out of the land of lederhosen.

[Thane_Banquo]

Judge Andrew Napalitano on Foxnews said in the US the same crime would have gotten him a minimum of life in prison and he would have possibly faced the death penalty. In Europe it gets you a slap on the wrist and the admiration of European leftists.

[Michael81Dus]

I´d like to see him hanging, too. But of course, and especially as a student of law, I respect our system of justice.

Best regards
Michael from Düsseldorf, Germany

[mewzilla]

I respect our system of justice.

What system of justice?

[Uncle Miltie]

Would he have gotten 30 years for murdering 6,000?

[PBRSTREETGANG]

But of course, and especially as a student of law, I respect our system of justice.

It warrants respect in proportion to the justice delivered.

(With 15 years for 3,045 murders, it deserves less respect than Rodney Dangerfield.)

[freepersup]

# 25 But i am sure some of you would like to see him hang on a rope, right?

Would it be quick ? Humane ? Then no I wouldn't be for hanging.

What WOULD be appropriate though, would be to impale him on a 6"-8" diameter pointed log... slowly, very, very slowly.

[Uncle Miltie]

15 Year for 3,000 murdered.

That works out to 1 day and 20 hours for each murdered person.

[Michael81Dus]

No, the maximum penalty for accessory to murder is 15 years.

[Michael81Dus]

Our justice is not only built on revenge. The society also tries to reintegrate the offender.

[mewzilla]

They'll go to jail or go to Hell. I'm not picky. And any we lock up, won't be getting out. Don't like it? Tough.

[mewzilla]

Re-integrate mass murders...Uh huh.

[Michael81Dus]

It´s not a daily event to convict mass-murderers. Our laws are not only made for mass-murderers. Imagine the guy called A who has heard that another man (B) wants to kill his evil boss C. A offers to give B his car to kill C by a car accident. B is guilty of murder (at least manslaughter), A is guilty of accessory to murder (manslaughter) - would you give A more than 15 years in prison??

[CFC__VRWC]

No, the maximum penalty for accessory to murder is 15 years.

Here in the US, a 15-year sentence usually translates to maybe 5 years behind bars, once time off for good behavior and parole are taken into account. I expect it's roughly the same in Germany, maybe even better for the criminal, am I right?

I'm also guessing that a legion of left-wing lawyers and activists will be swinging into action in Germany now, working pro bono to appeal this guy's senetence and get him out of prison. Given Schroeder's actions, these people will probably have his tacit support.