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Brazile fears loss of blacks to GOP
Washington Times ^ | 2/19/03 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 02/18/2003 10:11:09 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:00:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: johnny7
Sharpton may have a sudden, "tragic accident"...
61 posted on 02/19/2003 8:43:02 AM PST by pabianice
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To: rdb3
I didn't mean to address the question to you to answer personally. But I'm glad you did.

The best thing one can say about the distinct minority in question is that they have an overly defeatist attitude.

The worst is that they don't want to work towards fulfilling the promise of America, as invisioned by the Republican Party, with partners of a different color.

As Donna would say, I'm trending towards the second opinion. And it really kills me to say that.

62 posted on 02/19/2003 8:43:16 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: kattracks
There may be more than meets the eye here. Brazile is a shrewd politician, and she just may be trying to scare the democrats into accepting Sharpton. It may very well work, because the democratic party cannot win elections without the black vote. They have pinned their fortunes on that fact for decades.

The gradual movement to the right by African-Americans is a fearsome thing to a party that already exists only with a patchwork quilt of fringe groups and outright enemys of democracy itself.

On the other hand, the temptation for the republicans to over reach in a vain effort to win vast numbers of black voters could backfire. In time, we will see a more evenly balanced dispersion of votes from African-Americans as more and more see that this country works for them.

The days of the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons may soon be over as their would be followers seem to be slowly breaking the bonds of dependency on those self appointed "leaders."
63 posted on 02/19/2003 8:47:50 AM PST by billhilly (I don't know it all.)
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To: kattracks
Feeble attempt at damage control. The Demopukes will continue to push Blacks to the back of the bus.

Look how they're pushing forward a white female, Nancy Pelosi, and then they expect their Black voters to fade into the background.

64 posted on 02/19/2003 9:00:13 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: kattracks
This is delicious, truly delicious. Robert Novack noted in a column over the weekend that Democrats would one day pay for their over-reliance on the Black vote; now that two of their water-bearers have decided to run for President, their feet are being put to the fire. And I, as a Conservative Black woman, just love seeing the White Liberal Democrat Establishment squirm. They want the slaves to stay back in the kitchen, but not out in the front parlor. Anyone remember Maynard Jackson?

-Regards, T.
65 posted on 02/19/2003 9:02:24 AM PST by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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To: TontoKowalski
The worst is that they don't want to work towards fulfilling the promise of America, as invisioned by the Republican Party, with partners of a different color.

Hey, I'll come out and flatly say it. We've got a few intolerant racist bigots in the Republican party. With work, we can shun them out.

But there are far more of them among the Dems, and people like Brazile and Sharpton are flaming examples. I believe if they were white, they'd have a sheet and hood in their closet. Byrd probably still does.

What I can't understand is, after the centuries of damage that making distinctions based on skin color has caused to blacks, why do they tolerate such racists in their ranks and promote them as leaders?

66 posted on 02/19/2003 9:04:14 AM PST by LexBaird
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To: keats5
Several black people (about 50) left their innercity black church en masse to become members of our church ....

A wonderful testimonial about whites and blacks worshipping together and praying for our President ...as the Bible instructs us to do, pray for our leaders.

67 posted on 02/19/2003 9:06:35 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: kattracks
Sounds like the Underground Railroad is running right past the plantation again. Good Whipmasters like Al and Jesse are losing their slaves??

Pray for GW and the Truth

68 posted on 02/19/2003 9:10:29 AM PST by bray
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To: keats5
I atttend an Evangelical church in white suburbia, in Ohio. Several black people (about 50) left their innercity black church en mass to become members of our church. Their numbers grow daily, and they are predominently conservative. These people are hard workers, committed to stable families, and are often the first to request prayers for President Bush.

I've met a number of black conservatives and usually what led them away from the Democrats was their realization of what the abortion holocaust has done to Black America. Their consciences seared by dead black babies, they realized who their true enemies were.

69 posted on 02/19/2003 9:23:29 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: rdb3
I think the fear might be that when someone starts talking about getting more of the black vote, people believe that the Republican party will move to the left to court the votes. I think that is a legitimate concern - look at what Bush has proposed in his efforts to court hispanics (amnesty, social security for illegal aliens, etc.). But, such fears should cause us to focus on ensuring that such is not done. Instead, we should fight to have the republican party get a conservative message to black people. At some point, the black population has to realize that the constant calling of republicans and conservatives "racist" cannot all be true. When that day comes, blacks will start to listen to conservative ideas. Once a significant portion joins the republican party, there will be a landslide as the social ostracism of being a black conservative will no longer be a threat. That is what the democrats fear most. And I believe that is why the democrats fight any republican minority nominee more than any other. Once the social stigmatism is gone, more and more blacks will join in the good fight.

Now, if the people simply don't want people with different skin colors in the party, that is a different story, and, as unfortunate as it is, every group, institution, etc. has its share of climers. We just have to attempt to marginalize and get rid of those people.
70 posted on 02/19/2003 9:29:52 AM PST by brownie
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To: kattracks
A survey by the Joint Center last fall concluded, among other things, that "there has been a noteworthy change in black partisan identification (away from the Democrats)" since the 2000 election.

Who are the JOINT Center and what might they be smoking?

71 posted on 02/19/2003 9:31:00 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: brownie
> I think the fear might be that when someone starts talking about getting more of the black vote, people believe that the Republican party will move to the left to court the votes.

>> Now, if the people simply don't want people with different skin colors in the party, that is a different story, and, as unfortunate as it is, every group, institution, etc. has its share of climers.

The two are one and the same, my friend. The former only lends faux-credibility to their argument.

T-minus 28 days until the birth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
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72 posted on 02/19/2003 9:39:19 AM PST by rdb3 (Hit 'em with that Nina, man. Or my .44 that's guaranteed to lean 'em, man. Whoa!)
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To: LexBaird
Hey, I'll come out and flatly say it. We've got a few intolerant racist bigots in the Republican party. With work, we can shun them out.

Which is why it was SO important that the GOP Senate dump Trent Lott as Majority Leader. He may or may not be a racist but the perception was quickly formed and the GOP needed to demonstrate that they were willing to punish their own. To have let him keep that position would have been telling potential black voters that the Republicans tolerate bigots. I believe more than ever that they did the right thing.

73 posted on 02/19/2003 9:39:57 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: Yehuda
She compared Mr. Sharpton's candidacy to the Rev. Jesse Jackson's presidential runs.

And look at Jesse now - defending two-bit lawbreaking lounge lizards on the lam. Just waiting for him to pull out that race card....

74 posted on 02/19/2003 9:42:51 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: kattracks
This is strictly fantasyland. The Democrats will have 85%+ of the african american vote in national elections for decades.
75 posted on 02/19/2003 9:43:02 AM PST by HitmanLV
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To: Tall_Texan
"...what usually led them away from the Democrats was their realization of what the abortion holocaust has done to Black America. Their concsiences seared by dead black babies, they realized who their true enemies were."

That was one of MAJOR issues that led me to become a Republican, along with the fact the Democrats embrace an un-Godly and immoral platform: Abortion, Homosexuality, Socialism and Victimization, or Slave mentalitiy, if you will.

-Regards, T.
76 posted on 02/19/2003 9:45:24 AM PST by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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To: T Lady
Thanks for the confirmation. I used to live in a precinct with a very small GOP representation (it was the poorer side of town in an area with lots of minorities). I met a black fellow who was all fire and brimstone about the abortion issue. The more he learned about it, the angrier he got.

We elected him precinct chair and he became a delegate all the way up to the National convention. Now some might cynically call that opportunism but I saw it as how eager the party was to have black voices among them. If you get inside an organization, you'll be more effective than screaming at them from the outside.

But, then, as somebody who has been a Keyes supporter, I really don't have any qualms about blacks leading the party - as long as they are conservatives.

Same thing with women. If a Lady Thatcher was running for office here, I'd be all for it.

The sad part is that there are so few blacks or women that are conservative enough for me to support them.

77 posted on 02/19/2003 10:07:00 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: rdb3
I disagree. I, for one, hope to see the republican party work hard to make inroads with hispanic and black voters. However, I do not want the party to do so by moving leftward. The problem is that there are many in republican leadership who seem to believe that the only way to obtain those votes is to move leftward (again, I cite Bush's moves viz a viz hispanics).

Therefore, there can be a disagreement on what can and should be done to court black and hispanic voters, without the element of racism.
78 posted on 02/19/2003 10:14:07 AM PST by brownie
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To: cerberus
It seems there may be a few (very few) on this forum who would rather not see blacks in our camp.

Yep.

And every last one of them is a disgusting human being (?) that belongs on stormfront.com rather than trying to make this place look bad.

79 posted on 02/19/2003 11:11:57 AM PST by The Lake City Gar
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To: Fledermaus
Black Americans aren't going to vote for Bush in 2004. They are so indoctrinated it's beyond their ability to think for themselves.

You disgust me. And you're an embarrassment to this great forum.

80 posted on 02/19/2003 11:21:38 AM PST by The Lake City Gar
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