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We won't shut up, Mr Chirac, says East Europe
Reuters | 2/18/03 | Sean Maguire

Posted on 02/18/2003 4:20:27 AM PST by kattracks

WARSAW, Feb 18 (Reuters) - East European politicians accused French President Jacques Chirac on Tuesday of bully-boy tactics and rejected his demand to mute their strong backing for U.S. policy on Iraq.

"France has a right to its opinion and Poland has the right to decide what is good for it. France should respect that," Poland's deputy foreign minister Adam Rotfeld told public radio. "I would prefer if he expressed himself more politely."

"That's the way it seems," said Czech deputy foreign minister Alexandr Vondr when asked if Chirac was bullying the future EU countries.

Chirac on Monday lambasted east European states on track to join the European Union, saying they had been ill-behaved in backing Washington's determination to disarm Iraq, by force if necessary, and had missed "a great opportunity to shut up."

France's outburst will underline suspicions among the eight ex-communist states due to join the European Union next year that Paris expects them to show humble gratitude for being granted membership and wants them to accept French primacy in the bloc.

The clash will exacerbate tensions across Europe between France and Germany, which are leading opposition to U.S. policy, and states like Britain, Italy, Spain and the East Europeans who have joined to back Washington's tough stance on Baghdad.

One East European diplomat said Chirac had spoken in a tone that not even the Soviet Union would have used with its Warsaw Pact clients during its 40 year dominance of the region.

Former communist states have long been grateful to Washington for helping them throw off Moscow's dominance and for sponsoring their NATO entry drives. They had no qualms about openly backing the U.S. on Iraq, irritating Paris and Berlin.

MEMBERSHIP RISKS

Politicians said they found it particularly unsettling that France appeared to be threatening candidate states who have yet to receive entry invites and telling members-in-waiting that they were not partners but supplicants still outside the family.

Chirac also suggested enlargement might be delayed if even one of the referendums on EU entry due in candidate states in the coming months were to deliver a "No" vote.

His outburst will give ammunition to EU opponents in eastern Europe who argue they risk surrendering a liberty recently regained from Moscow to a bloc that will ignore their interests.

The candidates were irritated that current EU president Greece refused British and Spanish entreaties to invite them to Monday's EU emergency summit on Iraq, saying it showed they were not being taken seriously by some European states.

They were invited instead to a Tuesday briefing in Brussels, a substitute that many complained showed EU heavyweights France and Germany had not yet taken on board how Europe's centre of gravity will shift when its expands eastwards in 2004.

Bulgaria and Romania were told by Chirac they had put their chances of EU entry in 2007 at risk. Both have offered troops, bases and entry to their air space to the United States and Sofia has used its current Security Council seat to back Washington.

"I am surprised to find a connection being made between positions on Iraq and membership talks with the EU. Entry talks are held under strictly set rules announced in advance," complained European Integration Minister Meglena Kuneva.

Other states complained that Chirac was being unfair in criticising former Warsaw Pact states for a lack of solidarity with Europe when the European Union itself was deeply riven over Iraq.

"The EU candidates had no chance to have the same stance as the EU, because the Union itself had not agreed on a common position until yesterday," said Boris Gandel, Slovak Foreign Ministry spokesman. ((Reporting by Reuters bureau, writing by Sean Maguire,



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chiraq; france; jacqueschirac
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To: kattracks
"WARSAW, Feb 18 (Reuters) - East European politicians accused French President Jacques Chirac on Tuesday of bully-boy tactics and rejected his demand to mute their strong backing for U.S. policy on Iraq."

Jaques to former Soviet Bloc countries : "Shut up and do what I say or you can't play in the samdbox with us!!"

Former Soviet Bloc countries to Jaques : "Take a hike, little man. You're threats mean qquat to us."

As my daughter said last night about Chirac's hissy fit, "France threatening anyone is an oxymoron."

101 posted on 02/18/2003 7:49:05 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: borkrules
It is about time that Japan or India replaces France as a permenant member of the UN security council. At least these two nations deserve to be added, if it was deemed that France should retain its seat?
102 posted on 02/18/2003 7:53:50 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: borkrules
Briefing.com ^ 08:54 ET Futures indications move to their best levels of the morning following reports that Iraq has asked Iran to allow Saddam Hussein to flee via Iran to political exile in Russia... As such, the indices remain poised for a solidly higher open

An increasingly likely scenario is that Saddam will flee into exile. If that happens, who wins? Who will claim victory?

103 posted on 02/18/2003 7:56:52 AM PST by legman ("If God is for us, who can be against us?")
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To: Puddleglum
An astute observation.
104 posted on 02/18/2003 8:00:41 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: donbernd
"everyone not following the us-way is to boycott .... thats nice ..... just take a look on the time before ww2 starts ... wasn't there something exactly like this ? it was called 'don't buy from jews' ....."

Much of EUrope is AGAIN boycotting Israeli products. In some countries, products from Israel are branded with the infamous yellow badge with a Star of David on it...so the terrorist sympathizers can choose not to buy those products.

105 posted on 02/18/2003 8:08:54 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: kattracks
Thanks, kattracks, for posting this article. It lifted my spirits.
106 posted on 02/18/2003 8:14:36 AM PST by Barset
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To: donbernd
I knew that by the time I got back from the gym you'd be banned.

Bye bye troll

107 posted on 02/18/2003 8:17:42 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Mamzelle
Coach has moved its entire manufacturing set-up outside the U.S. while planning to open 29 new stores here. Spanish and Italian leather goods are much nicer and you can sometimes find beautiful examples at T.J. Maxx. I usually buy handbags and such from local craftspeople for myself and as gifts. The workmanship is excellent and the leather not the usual industrial type leather of Coach. I think that some people need to cover themselves with labels in order to feel okay.
108 posted on 02/18/2003 8:22:36 AM PST by Barset
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To: donbernd
"...wont you say 'dont buy from germans ' and 'dont buy from jews' are nearly the same ?"

No where close. Israel is not screwing it's allies, nor insulting our president. Germany and France are. Israel stands to lose an awful lot if war comes to Iraq...and yet stands beside the United States and the coalition of the willing. Germany and France are not. Instead they are endangering lives by irrationally trying to protect their oil and other business interests.

109 posted on 02/18/2003 8:23:02 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: legman
If that happens, who wins? Who will claim victory?

Who cares?

As the great one himself, Ronald Reagan, said, "There's no limit to the things you can achieve if you don't care who gets the credit".

We'll just move on to the next threat. Syria? Iran? North Korea? Where ever the opportunity is most ripe for action.

110 posted on 02/18/2003 8:26:05 AM PST by borkrules
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To: Barset
Never had either a Coach or a LV, but did once have a Dooney Burke. As expensive as Coach is, why would they need to move offshore? I do love TJ Maxx, though.
111 posted on 02/18/2003 8:27:20 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
re 94

I've decided to peruse the site they pay for, check out the American lines, then buy from Nordstrom.com. Urban Decay, Lorac...

Go to Rite-Aid for your stuff. Just be sure to use soap, shave the legs, under the arms and if you are French, get rid of the mustache. American men will love you.

112 posted on 02/18/2003 8:28:44 AM PST by Temple Owl
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To: The Wizard
Chriac let the cat out of the bag that he and France want to subjugate other states in the EU, or rather a new Franco-German Empire.
113 posted on 02/18/2003 8:29:51 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: kattracks
The French have screwed Poland over for the LAST time.
114 posted on 02/18/2003 8:30:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: donbernd
Ireland does NOT want to be a menber of the Old EUrope Only Club. Period. What part of "Ireland does not want to be a member of the Old EUrope Only Club" do you not understand? Is such a simple concept too complicated for your EUropean brain to comprehend?
115 posted on 02/18/2003 8:30:23 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: COBOL2Java
Thank you for the list. Poland continued exporting their succulent hams under the Soviets and since Poland's aspirations for freedom were a constant thorn in the Soviet's side, there was no hesitation in buying them.
116 posted on 02/18/2003 8:34:57 AM PST by Barset
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"He's a bully, you lost DUer, because he's threatening those weaker than he in Eastern Europe with opposing their admission into the EU."

No one in the left wing anywhere in the world understands how ANGRY bullies picking on the weak makes the rest of us. Probably because the left wing all over the world ARE the bullies.

117 posted on 02/18/2003 8:35:56 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: Mamzelle
A FRENCHMAN expects GRATITUDE?

Good call!! LOL!!

118 posted on 02/18/2003 8:39:54 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: ch.man
The people in power in france now had german fathers. The leaders of france were born when the germans controlled all of france. That eplains chiracs' affinity with herr schroeder, they may be cousins.
119 posted on 02/18/2003 8:49:03 AM PST by stumpy
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To: Lion's Cub
Use Vaseline. Recent independent research showed that it doesn't just soften skin temporarily but builds up new cell layers. I've used it for years because of allergies to ingredients in creams. I also use cider vinegar as skin tonic. Of course, I use cider and white vinegar for everything, window cleaning, wood floor cleaning, upholstery, etc. Vaseline comes in a cream type that is not greasy, but the greasy stuff is better for plumping skin.

This may sound frivolous, to talk about substitutes, but I think it's pertinent. I discovered the many uses of vinegar in a WWII government pamphlet that I found at an estate sale. It lists ways to help the war effort by reducing the consumption of goods needed by the military.
120 posted on 02/18/2003 8:51:22 AM PST by Barset
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