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Who's with President Bush?
townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

Posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Who's with President Bush?

President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.

Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.

For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.

At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.

This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.

Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.

The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.

In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.

The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.


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To: Mo1
You may not be Beckie .. but I sure get the feeling you've been here before


You have to believe that as she won't say yes or no as to being here under another name..... Thus you have to assume yes because no would be so easy to post.
1,341 posted on 02/19/2003 10:06:04 PM PST by deport (WHO.......)
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To: Jael

1,342 posted on 02/19/2003 10:06:09 PM PST by katnip
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To: Jael; Howlin; Torie
Oh, get over yourself!

You were busted...and now you are attempting to divert attention to Howlin.

Fess up...or shut up.

Again, a simple choice.

And btw....I agree with Torie. You deserve a month off for your antics on this thread. But I, unlike you, will NOT resort to calling in the Admin Mods to fight my battles for me. How disgusting. You are ONE of the most dishonest people I have ever seen on FR.
1,343 posted on 02/19/2003 10:06:23 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: katnip
Hi Troll, what's up!!!

Here is where I believe that Amelia is wrong.

"I'm still waiting to hear you explain what one's sexual practices have to do with one's political principals.

Do you not think there are homosexuals who favor limited government?

MUST one be a Christian to be a conservative? Are Jewish people allowed in your Konservative Klub?"

One should never equate being Jewish with being homosexual. In my opinion, her snide remarks about the Klan and Jews in regard to sexuality do just that.

Now, go away troll.


1,344 posted on 02/19/2003 10:06:42 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael
Posted by Amelia to Jael

On The Smokey Backroom 02/19/2003 5:54 PM PST #446 of 1,211

Which six sodomites did Bush appoint instead of good loyal conservatives?

I'm still waiting to hear you explain what one's sexual practices have to do with one's political principals.

Do you not think there are homosexuals who favor limited government?

MUST one be a Christian to be a conservative? Are Jewish people allowed in your Konservative Klub?

Is this the line you keep referring to? If so, you completely misunderstood.

1,345 posted on 02/19/2003 10:07:15 PM PST by auboy
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To: katnip
Actually, you didn't leave it out. I must retire soon. Your post stands on its own as a devastating summation of the affair. My opinion stands too. Nasty slander of this sort cannot go unnoticed, without the quality of this place being depreciated.
1,346 posted on 02/19/2003 10:07:16 PM PST by Torie
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To: Howlin; justshe; deport; A Citizen Reporter
You owe me a GIANT apology or from here on out your a slanderer for all to know forever......

To: Howlin; justshe; TLBSHOW; A Citizen Reporter

Thanks for those links. So let me understand, do you have argument with Gaffney's article?

I've scanned th thread a little, and I think I'm starting to see what's going on. FWIW, if anyone's a traitor, I'd point to Norquist. Actually, though, I just think he very close to being the triangulating, toe-sucking, Dick Morris-like prince of darkness of the Bush White House.

Again, I haven't seen this whole thread, but when I started posting on it the other night (talk about a sleeping volcano), but I've seen a few reposts of TLBSHOW'S reply at #21 to my #19. I mentioned Grover Norquist rather prominently at my post, and took Todd's reply to be in reference to that.


1294 posted on 02/20/2003 0:51 AM EST by Sabertooth
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1,347 posted on 02/19/2003 10:07:41 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Howlin
Hammering?

What a hoot you are old girl!
1,348 posted on 02/19/2003 10:07:51 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
YEP ..
1,349 posted on 02/19/2003 10:08:06 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: Jael
Go away troll

Is that an order, or a polite request???

1,350 posted on 02/19/2003 10:08:14 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Jael Bait)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Oh no no no, that gerbil is reputed to be named Biff.

Don't drag me into this, I'm just watching from the balcony.


1,351 posted on 02/19/2003 10:08:22 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Jael; ~Kim4VRWC's~; homeschool mama; katnip
Oh, man, I see your lying doesn't stop with other posters.

You completely mischaracterized what happened. In fact, I believe what happened was just about what happened on THIS thread, with you having the role of wronged poster, saying people were calling you a liar, and pinging mods and JR to come to your defense.

I'm guessing you get off on this.

1,352 posted on 02/19/2003 10:08:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Well........I hate my screenname.

We don't only hate your screen name, we hate your mindless comments too.

1,353 posted on 02/19/2003 10:08:32 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: bonfire
No she wasn't suspended from the Neverending, just shunned.

No one will answer her because she threatens to have a thread that's been going for almost 2 years pulled.

Same tricks, baits and trolls and then pings the Moderators.
1,354 posted on 02/19/2003 10:08:45 PM PST by katnip
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To: Jael
"...and will lie when the truth would do her better"

Take your own advice....or hush.

1,355 posted on 02/19/2003 10:09:17 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: katnip
It's the way she has been since her newest incarnation here.

I've noticed

1,356 posted on 02/19/2003 10:09:18 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: Jael
She's got no self control and will lie when the truth would do her better.

Want to put MY credibility up against yours?

1,357 posted on 02/19/2003 10:09:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Ah.. ok... ;0)
1,358 posted on 02/19/2003 10:09:31 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: Jael
"Trying to get the thread pulled?"


1,359 posted on 02/19/2003 10:09:53 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: katnip; Jael
Ok, thanks. I am "remembering" wrong and DO apologize. Sorry, Jael.
1,360 posted on 02/19/2003 10:09:55 PM PST by bonfire
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