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Fred Barnes: Fascist Pigs!
The Weekly Standard ^ | 02/17/03 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 02/16/2003 9:18:53 PM PST by Pokey78

Demonstrations over the weekend show the left's dedication to preserving murderous, dictatorial regimes--no matter what the cost.

THERE WAS A TIME--the 1960s, 1970s--when the political left in America favored wars of national liberation in countries ruled by dictators, some of them fascist dictators. True, the left would have installed communist dictatorships in their place. But at least leftists targeted enemies who were corrupt, brutal abusers of human rights.

Now the left has flipped. The effect of its crusade against war in Iraq would be the survival--indeed, the strengthening--of Saddam Hussein's oppressive regime. The left has brushed aside the pleas of Iraqi exiles, Kurds, and Shiite Muslims who are seeking liberation from Saddam's cruelty. Instead, leftists have targeted those who would aid the Iraqi dissidents, particularly the Bush administration.

The corruption of the left has deepened in recent years. At no time was this more evident than last Saturday when large antiwar protests were staged in New York, San Francisco, and other cities in the United States and around the world, including London. Did the demonstrators march on the Iraqi consulate in New York to demand an end to Saddam's murderous practices? No. Did they spend time condemning him in their speeches and placards? Nope. Did they come to the defense of Saddam's victims? No. The left now gives fascist dictators a pass. Its enemy is the United States.

No one has explained this better than British prime minister Tony Blair in a speech Saturday. If he took the antiwar demonstrators advice, Blair said, "there would be no war, but there would still be Saddam. Many of the people marching will say they hate Saddam. But the consequences of taking their advice is he stays in charge of Iraq, ruling the Iraqi people . . . There will be no march for the victims of Saddam, no protests about the thousands of children that die needlessly every year under his rule, no righteous anger over the torture chamber which, if he is left in power, will be left in being."

In ignoring the 25 million Iraqis who suffer under Saddam's autocratic rule, the left has stripped any moral dimension from the antiwar cause. And its arguments for opposing a war of liberation in Iraq are either uninformed or merely stupid. Here are a few of those arguments:

(1) War will mean thousands of civilian casualties. If there's anything Saddam has produced in his nearly 25 years of rule in Iraq, it's civilian casualties. He ordered the gassing of thousands of innocent Kurds. He had thousands of Shiites murdered. His war against Iran caused tens of thousands of civilian casualties, and his invasion of Kuwait was marked by the killing of thousands of Kuwaiti civilians. Saddam has personally ordered the execution of thousands of Iraqis. He has allowed thousands of Iraqi children to die from starvation or lack of medicine.

Compare that with the few hundred civilians killed in Afghanistan by the U.S. military. In fact, the American intervention saved hundreds of thousands who would have starved to death otherwise. And in the 1991 Gulf War relatively few Iraqi civilians were killed. In truth, a war that deposes Saddam in Iraq will save civilian lives, thousands of them.

(2) It's a war for Iraqi oil. There's an easy way to get all the oil in Iraq that President Bush or anyone else might desire--and it's not war. No, the easy way is to lift sanctions on Iraq and make a deal with Saddam. He's eager to sell the oil and make money. And the United States doesn't need Iraqi oil anyway, what with Russian oil production coming on line. At the moment, America's problem is the cutoff of oil from Venezuela. A war for oil would oust President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. Of course there is no such war planned, nor is there one to cut the price of oil. The price favored by Bush and the domestic oil industry--and producers like Saudi Arabia--will be restored when Venezuela is pumping fully again, probably soon.

(3) War in Iraq will stir a new wave of terrorism. We've heard this one before. The Gulf War, it was warned, would arouse the Arab street and subject Americans to a wave of attacks. That didn't happen. When the United States went into Afghanistan and, worse, bombed during Ramadan, it was supposed to prompt a worldwide uprising of Muslims, and Muslim terrorists in particular, against America. Again, that didn't happen. So when the Arab leader most hated by other Arab leaders--a leader who's far more secular than Muslim, is removed, it's highly unlikely to cause more terrorism. Most likely, the result will be less.

(4) Give the inspectors more time. This was a common cry at Saturday's antiwar demonstrations. But of course those cries were entirely disingenuous. By definition, the "stop the war" protesters don't want war, no matter what the United Nations inspectors in Iraq happen upon. The demonstrators are playing Saddam's delaying game: Let the inspections continue until support in the United States for military action in Iraq dissolves and war is averted. Then Saddam survives. The inspections ploy is further proof the left has given up wars of national liberation against oppressive dictators and is now in the business of saving oppressive dictators from wars of national liberation.


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To: DAnconia55
"the Birchers were right, on at least one occasion."

Two old sayings come to mind; something about a broken watch is correct twice a day and even paranoid nutcases have enemies.

41 posted on 02/17/2003 12:56:23 AM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: Howlin
And some on here worship Republicans and the ground that they walk on. And they ignore that the Constitution was written FOR The common populace, just SO that they could understand it. That being the whole point behind its construction.

Further, some Republican worshipers attack their targets when it doesn't best serve them.

42 posted on 02/17/2003 12:57:40 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Howlin
Good morning, Howlin.

Oh, I'm not worried too much about the "intellect" of someone who wants to re-educate us for seeing the monumental hypocrisy of the Left.
43 posted on 02/17/2003 12:58:52 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: KantianBurke
Two old sayings come to mind; something about a broken watch is correct twice a day and even paranoid nutcases have enemies

Well, we could stack up the platforms of the Birchers vs the Platforms of the modern GOP and have a nice debate, if you're willing.

I'm pro-Free Trade, which will alienate me from the Bircher crowd right off.

But I'd be willing to have an open airing of their positions.

44 posted on 02/17/2003 1:01:00 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
And some on here worship Republicans and the ground that they walk on. And they ignore that the Constitution was written FOR The common populace, just SO that they could understand it. That being the whole point behind its construction. Further, some Republican worshipers attack their targets when it doesn't best serve them.

Tell the truth, that's a macro, isn't it?

45 posted on 02/17/2003 1:01:21 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin
Your control is the worst thing that could have happened to FR.

I'm sure your aware of my opinion by now.

46 posted on 02/17/2003 1:03:27 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Howlin
And that's not a reply.

But hey, you don't have to reply. You can effect a ban.

47 posted on 02/17/2003 1:04:16 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
And they ignore that the Constitution was written FOR The common populace, just SO that they could understand it. That being the whole point behind its construction.
48 posted on 02/17/2003 1:06:18 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
You can effect a ban.

If you are insinuating that I could possibly get your banned, you're more delusional than anybody on here thinks.

Believe me, if I could, this place would be a lot quicker to read.

49 posted on 02/17/2003 1:06:50 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: DAnconia55
A Republican stating that the Constitution requires extra interpretation is an abomination.

The Founders made clear their interpretation.

The record is in evidence.

50 posted on 02/17/2003 1:07:52 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Howlin
Which parts of the Constitution would you like to openly debate, without crawling for help?
51 posted on 02/17/2003 1:08:37 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Free ThinkerNY
For the Left, any enemy of America, is a friend of theirs.

You are exactly right. It has never been more clear that the vocal left is first and foremost anti-American. It's the only principle that they truly hold dear.

52 posted on 02/17/2003 1:08:43 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Howlin
I'll use the Founders own words.

And you can use what you believe to be the modern and politically convienient Republican rebuttal.

53 posted on 02/17/2003 1:10:00 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
Firstly, I didn't accuse you of being a bircher only that its silly for one to argue their views had any merit as it was an organization of kooks. Secondly, I don't have an exhaustive list of what the Birchers stand for but I can assure you its galaxies away from what moderate Republicans stand for. What initially comes to mind is their hatred of Jews who they are convinced are in charge of some world government, have all kinds of wacky doomsday conspiracies and other such "lovely" viewpoints. Heck check out their website for starters.
54 posted on 02/17/2003 1:15:43 AM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: DAnconia55
The thought quotient at FR is decreasing.

And the reason you're still here is what?

That old "the really swell thinkers have all left FR" is yet another old stand by, eh?

Your control is the worst thing that could have happened to FR.

You're the one who seems obsessed with thought control.

55 posted on 02/17/2003 1:16:58 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: KantianBurke
Firstly, I didn't accuse you of being a bircher only that its silly for one to argue their views had any merit as it was an organization of kooks. Secondly, I don't have an exhaustive list of what the Birchers stand for but I can assure you its galaxies away from what moderate Republicans stand for

If you don't have a list of what they stand for, then how could you possibly know what you are or are not accusing me of? And further, how could you know that they are or are not an organization of kooks?

You've admitted yourself, that you don't know what they stand for.

I happen to know they are anti-free trade, and I'm against that. But I don't know the totality of what they are for or are against.

56 posted on 02/17/2003 1:19:20 AM PST by DAnconia55 (Man you people make this simple....)
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To: Howlin
Waiting for a reply, that I know that I will not get, and know that you are not equipped to deliver.
57 posted on 02/17/2003 1:20:15 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Howlin
And they ignore that the Constitution was written FOR The common populace, just SO that they could understand it. That being the whole point behind its construction.
58 posted on 02/17/2003 1:25:20 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
Sir, its 4:30 in the morning thus its a bit too early for me to write up for you a report on Birchers. As I said before, I don't have an exhaustive list all typed out in front of me. At the very least I gave you the gist of their "agenda." Once again I invite you to check out their website if you think I'm ignorant. Thus don't get all excited that my inability to blast out the birchers' talking points undermines the argument.
59 posted on 02/17/2003 1:26:00 AM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: Howlin
Do you realize you speak like King George?

Peasants are not suitable to understand the law, but only YOU are....

60 posted on 02/17/2003 1:26:55 AM PST by DAnconia55
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