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Fred Barnes: Fascist Pigs!
The Weekly Standard ^ | 02/17/03 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 02/16/2003 9:18:53 PM PST by Pokey78

Demonstrations over the weekend show the left's dedication to preserving murderous, dictatorial regimes--no matter what the cost.

THERE WAS A TIME--the 1960s, 1970s--when the political left in America favored wars of national liberation in countries ruled by dictators, some of them fascist dictators. True, the left would have installed communist dictatorships in their place. But at least leftists targeted enemies who were corrupt, brutal abusers of human rights.

Now the left has flipped. The effect of its crusade against war in Iraq would be the survival--indeed, the strengthening--of Saddam Hussein's oppressive regime. The left has brushed aside the pleas of Iraqi exiles, Kurds, and Shiite Muslims who are seeking liberation from Saddam's cruelty. Instead, leftists have targeted those who would aid the Iraqi dissidents, particularly the Bush administration.

The corruption of the left has deepened in recent years. At no time was this more evident than last Saturday when large antiwar protests were staged in New York, San Francisco, and other cities in the United States and around the world, including London. Did the demonstrators march on the Iraqi consulate in New York to demand an end to Saddam's murderous practices? No. Did they spend time condemning him in their speeches and placards? Nope. Did they come to the defense of Saddam's victims? No. The left now gives fascist dictators a pass. Its enemy is the United States.

No one has explained this better than British prime minister Tony Blair in a speech Saturday. If he took the antiwar demonstrators advice, Blair said, "there would be no war, but there would still be Saddam. Many of the people marching will say they hate Saddam. But the consequences of taking their advice is he stays in charge of Iraq, ruling the Iraqi people . . . There will be no march for the victims of Saddam, no protests about the thousands of children that die needlessly every year under his rule, no righteous anger over the torture chamber which, if he is left in power, will be left in being."

In ignoring the 25 million Iraqis who suffer under Saddam's autocratic rule, the left has stripped any moral dimension from the antiwar cause. And its arguments for opposing a war of liberation in Iraq are either uninformed or merely stupid. Here are a few of those arguments:

(1) War will mean thousands of civilian casualties. If there's anything Saddam has produced in his nearly 25 years of rule in Iraq, it's civilian casualties. He ordered the gassing of thousands of innocent Kurds. He had thousands of Shiites murdered. His war against Iran caused tens of thousands of civilian casualties, and his invasion of Kuwait was marked by the killing of thousands of Kuwaiti civilians. Saddam has personally ordered the execution of thousands of Iraqis. He has allowed thousands of Iraqi children to die from starvation or lack of medicine.

Compare that with the few hundred civilians killed in Afghanistan by the U.S. military. In fact, the American intervention saved hundreds of thousands who would have starved to death otherwise. And in the 1991 Gulf War relatively few Iraqi civilians were killed. In truth, a war that deposes Saddam in Iraq will save civilian lives, thousands of them.

(2) It's a war for Iraqi oil. There's an easy way to get all the oil in Iraq that President Bush or anyone else might desire--and it's not war. No, the easy way is to lift sanctions on Iraq and make a deal with Saddam. He's eager to sell the oil and make money. And the United States doesn't need Iraqi oil anyway, what with Russian oil production coming on line. At the moment, America's problem is the cutoff of oil from Venezuela. A war for oil would oust President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. Of course there is no such war planned, nor is there one to cut the price of oil. The price favored by Bush and the domestic oil industry--and producers like Saudi Arabia--will be restored when Venezuela is pumping fully again, probably soon.

(3) War in Iraq will stir a new wave of terrorism. We've heard this one before. The Gulf War, it was warned, would arouse the Arab street and subject Americans to a wave of attacks. That didn't happen. When the United States went into Afghanistan and, worse, bombed during Ramadan, it was supposed to prompt a worldwide uprising of Muslims, and Muslim terrorists in particular, against America. Again, that didn't happen. So when the Arab leader most hated by other Arab leaders--a leader who's far more secular than Muslim, is removed, it's highly unlikely to cause more terrorism. Most likely, the result will be less.

(4) Give the inspectors more time. This was a common cry at Saturday's antiwar demonstrations. But of course those cries were entirely disingenuous. By definition, the "stop the war" protesters don't want war, no matter what the United Nations inspectors in Iraq happen upon. The demonstrators are playing Saddam's delaying game: Let the inspections continue until support in the United States for military action in Iraq dissolves and war is averted. Then Saddam survives. The inspections ploy is further proof the left has given up wars of national liberation against oppressive dictators and is now in the business of saving oppressive dictators from wars of national liberation.


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To: UnBlinkingEye
I don't need Barnes or anyone else to "convince" me of anything, if that's what you mean. I have personally waded into the sewers of the IndyMedia and the (now defunct) Berkeley Bulletin Board, and have seen first hand how the Leftists are. They are Death Incarnate. They are exactly as depicted in this article. Leftists have always claimed to be the champs of womyn and children and blacks, etc, yet now that it's time for their brains to cash the check their mouth wrote, they're bankrupt.

But they always were bankrupt.

That said, I also await your point by point refutation of this article.
21 posted on 02/16/2003 10:24:44 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: JoJo Gunn
[That said, I also await your point by point refutation of this article.]

I bet you'll have a long wait.
22 posted on 02/16/2003 11:21:26 PM PST by Diddley
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To: Pokey78
THERE WAS A TIME--the 1960s, 1970s--when the political left in America favored wars of national liberation in countries ruled by dictators, some of them fascist dictators. True, the left would have installed communist dictatorships in their place. But at least leftists targeted enemies who were corrupt, brutal abusers of human rights.

The first sentence betrays him for what he is.

The opposite of communist is NOT Fascist.

The opposite of BOTH communist and fascist is FREEDOM.

23 posted on 02/16/2003 11:26:01 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Fred is a tool, a propagandist, a government lackey, a disgrace to honest reporting.

Intelligent, Unblinking eyes are always welcome. :)

24 posted on 02/16/2003 11:27:25 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: AmishDude
Don't worry about Blinky. Click on his name and then "Find in Forum". Either he's a pitchforker or a Bircher. His last couple of posts seem to dwell a bit on Israel. I'll bet you can't possibly guess what his take is on that situation.

Both Barnes and Kondrake are as bought and paid for as bought and paid for can be. It doesn't matter what the subject they will be Pro-Government, and anti-liberty as editorial space allows.

UnblinkingEye's beliefs have nothing to do with it.

BTW... the Birchers were right, on at least one occasion. Which is more than you can say.
There WERE Communist spies in the government, the historical record has proven so.

25 posted on 02/16/2003 11:34:29 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Pokey78
The left now gives fascist dictators a pass. Its enemy is the United States.

Great article, he nailed it.
26 posted on 02/16/2003 11:35:34 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: JoJo Gunn
And what did he say in this piece that wasn't spot on?

The only thing that jumps out at me is his assumption that the left was ever "for" wars of liberation.

You can't support the spread of communism and be for liberation at the same time. Liberty and communism are inversely proportional.

27 posted on 02/16/2003 11:43:34 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
You can't support the spread of communism and be for liberation at the same time. Liberty and communism are inversely proportional.

The thought quotient at FR is decreasing.

A mass education program would be in order, but it would only exist to serve the GOP, and not truth.

28 posted on 02/17/2003 12:08:35 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: piasa
Well, that's true. I was thinking more of "today", of what I've seen from them in the last 10 years. Which is absolutely nothing.
29 posted on 02/17/2003 12:12:53 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: DAnconia55
"A mass education program would be in order...."

Then where do I sign up, oh GLSEN meister?
30 posted on 02/17/2003 12:14:48 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: JoJo Gunn
You're missing the point.
31 posted on 02/17/2003 12:16:55 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: JoJo Gunn
Oh wait... that GSLEN thing was supposed to mean something.

It'd help if I knew the meaning of your acronym insults, newbie.

32 posted on 02/17/2003 12:24:06 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
Surely a Leftist would know all about GLSEN training camps. Get 'em while they're in elementary school, ya unnerstan'.

33 posted on 02/17/2003 12:30:26 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: JoJo Gunn
uh-huh.

Well, newbie, you might want to hold fire, before you know how anti-leftist your target is.

FYI - I'm 100% Capitalist. With a capital "C".

34 posted on 02/17/2003 12:38:02 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
Oh, puhWEASE, Massa, puhwease don't call me a newbie. I promise I'll be good from now on. Don't hurl your intellectual firepower at me any longer. I shall surely die....
35 posted on 02/17/2003 12:45:43 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: DAnconia55
5
36 posted on 02/17/2003 12:51:19 AM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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To: UnBlinkingEye
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37 posted on 02/17/2003 12:51:36 AM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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To: Our man in washington; JohnHuang2

"Sodom, Saddam, and Rodham."


Good one !!!!!!!!!!!! {quote of the day JohnHuang2?]
38 posted on 02/17/2003 12:52:46 AM PST by The Raven (Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Don't worry about it.

Some on here believe they and they alone can read and interpret their copy of the Constitution and have the correct answers to any and all things under the stars; and no matter WHAT you might believe, you can damn sure bet they think you're wrong.

39 posted on 02/17/2003 12:53:33 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin
Hahaha...

~Wink~
40 posted on 02/17/2003 12:54:41 AM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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