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To: Squantos
The Benelli M-1 super 90 or is it super 90 M1, is a beautiful gun and looks wicked. I suspect it is just as reliable as everyone says but I only kept mine a month or so and traded it off.

The problem is everytime I fired it, the thing kicked the living daylights out of me. It kicks worse than a pump. I almost wonder if they didn't build a recoil accelerator into it.

I plan on getting one of the Remington 11-87's which have been remade into combat configuration as soon as I can afford it. I don't think Remington makes one but am not sure.

Actually I think a 7.62X39 just might crack an engine block if it didn't have to penetrate sheet metal, plus a generator, or air conditoning compressor to get to it. Of course if he meant penetrate as going right through it, then of course not.

104 posted on 02/17/2003 5:23:04 AM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog; patton
I have fired a whole lot of AK ammo both professionally and for fun at all sorts of materials and targets . Even the steel core russian issue didn't bust an engine block on our range targets. Exhaust manifolds, radiators, batteries, car doors and PS1 and 2 glass with deflection but never saw a water jacket or block crack. But that is just my experience with it.

Recoil is indeed the Benelli's nemisis IMO. As you know a spare round can stack on the follower if loaded carefully giving a capacity of 9 rounds. With the "Vang" modifications to the barrel the recoil is lessened to a certain degree while enhancing the lethality, accuracy and speed of the hits in the "A" zone.

Ability to handle recoil is a skill that must be "learned" with regards to such a firearm as the M1 Benelli. Managing such recoil is not easy but when mastered the Benelli is indeed a wonder to watch in the hands of such a skilled shooter.

Uncle Sugar sent me to a lot of schools to learn such or I may have done as you did, dropping / selling the M1 for a new Scatter-Gun Tech /Wilson or stock remington pump.

Stay Safe !

149 posted on 02/17/2003 8:30:36 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: yarddog
I plan on getting one of the Remington 11-87's which have been remade into combat configuration as soon as I can afford it. I don't think Remington makes one but am not sure.

I'm pretty sure that Remington does offer "Police" marked models of the 870 and 11-87, complete with ghost-ring rear sight and rifle-type blade front sight. Extended magazine, short barrel, black plastic furniture. Find a local gun shop where the off-duty cops hang out; they'll either have the "Law Enforcement" models in stock or will happily order the model of your choice.

IIRC, Remington does not feature those variants in the consumer products catalog. Check the prices, too - it might be cheaper to pick up a plain 11-87 and ship it off to Scattergun Technologies (Wilson).

187 posted on 02/17/2003 10:23:42 AM PST by Charles Martel
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