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To: Lev
"Which leads to the following question - when we ask about evolution why shouldn't the test be whether there is an intelligent 'guide' controlling it?"

Why shouldn't we? Why? Simple: because Evolution hasn't been proven yet (if ever).

You don't ask such a follow-on question until after you are sure that the thing in question is responsible for the behavior under examination...

365 posted on 02/17/2003 8:59:25 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Why shouldn't we? Why? Simple: because Evolution hasn't been proven yet (if ever).

Ok, let's replace Evolution with whatever process you claim an intelligent programmer is responsible for (change in genomes over time?). In case of a stream we look for intelligent guide to determine whether it's guided. In case of this process you state that it's guided without looking for the guide. Seems like a different standard.

377 posted on 02/17/2003 9:18:37 AM PST by Lev
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