[unspun]

My point is that you apparently refused to consider anything or anyone existing outside of the time/space/material universe.

One must be careful of one's assumptions and presuppositions.

[jennyp]

My point is that you apparently refused to consider anything or anyone existing outside of the time/space/material universe.

Ah, well, I'll consider anything. Imagining things is fun. Fantasy is fun. But reality depends on what we see & what hangs together logically from that. Darn reality.