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"Your argument for a programmer is merely the watchmaker argument dressed up in other clothes. It is flawed in many ways."

No, you've misunderstood the debate. Sorry.

Actually its you who misunderstand the debate. Sorry, you are so caught up in logical disconnects you can't even see what you are arguing. There is no difference between the programmer argument and the watchmaker argument both are flawed and both presuppose a creator that creates a product that nature cannot form on its own. This is you logical disconnect. Creationists failed with the watchmaker analogy and now try to revamp it into this programmer analogy.

It is the only recourse of the creationist to reuse and rehash the tired worn out debates they lost a hundred years ago. The reason is they haven't got any place else to stand. Their mountain of Illogical mythology and creation fantasies are crumbling into the mud that it was built from and they must reuse, rehash, and revisit what little arguments that gave them solace in the past. This is the form of mental masturbation that creationists so relish as it gives them what they think is a intellectual stance when all it does is reveal how little they understand of the natural world.