Ok. For what it is worth.
I have been through a very lot in my life. I have seen things that make what you describe seem trivial.
Let me ask you. What would Doug Henning seem to be a thousand years ago? Wouldn't he have been able to claim to be some sort of God!?
It is only because of our knowledge and his honesty that we don't think so.
There are many issues here. The problem is we want to mix them all up.
This real world, and the spiritual world, are, by definition, separate.
Why do you people want to keep making them one?
Don't you understand? They are not, and can never be?
I have tried, very hard, to not specifically debunk Christianity. I am only concerned with the truths that can be proved by science.
But you guys keep tying the two together, and blaming it on me.
Why?
You're just not the arbiter of such things, LW.
spiritual does not equal unreal
That is an illogical assumption. There is much evidence of the spiritual in our world and concomitantly, there is no way of disproving it.